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Facebook is asking to use Meta AI on photos you haven’t yet shared

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Re: Facebook is asking to use Meta AI on photos you haven’t yet shared

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Post by Anthony-G »

harvey9 wrote: post #274
barbazoo wrote: post #267

We’re on here are privileged. I feel bad for the billions of people that aren’t aware of or unable to see how truly terrible that organization is for societies and the planet.

I don't think this privilege counts for much since we all live in the same societies, and even among hn users there are few people with meaningful influence over Meta.

Similar to how Cassandra’s gift of prophecy was actually a curse because she was unable to use her foresight to avoid or mitigate the predicted misfortunes and tragedies.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cassandra

Re: Facebook is asking to use Meta AI on photos you haven’t yet shared

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Post by smeej »

dcrazy wrote: post #222
smeej wrote: post #205

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It didn't have a name. It wasn't really a "feature." You just went and posted on their "page" I guess I would call it. The change to being able to post things on your own page and expecting other people to come to your page and read them (because, again, no Feed) wasn't received well at first. Keep in mind, smartphones didn't exist yet, and the first ones didn't have selfie cameras even once they did. And the cameras…

I joined Thefacebook in 2005. The place on your page where posts from other people appeared was called the “wall” then.

Yeah, that's about when it changed. The lack of a wall was a very early situation. I joined in 2004, back when it was only open to Ivy League and Boston-area schools.

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Post by herbst »

clcaev wrote: post #191
robin_reala wrote: post #188

Remember that you can delete your Meta accounts and have nothing to do with them. It’s not hard to do.

> Remember that you can delete your Meta accounts and have nothing to do with them. It’s not hard to do. This means deleting real-world social connections. Meta owns the interwoven communication hubs of many local communities. Let me provide an example. My swim team coach uses WhatsApp for all communication, including frequent pool schedule changes. They have strongly resisted change, as it is too much work to get 50…

Meta owns your friendships?

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Post by herbst »

yonatan8070 wrote: post #225
robin_reala wrote: post #188

Remember that you can delete your Meta accounts and have nothing to do with them. It’s not hard to do.

I actually attempted to create a Facebook account recently to be able to access Facebook Marketplace. During sign-up, I was asked to upload a video selfie of myself to confirm I'm a real person. Never did a 180 so fast in my life. I guess I simply won't communicate with anyone selling anything there, even if it's the best deal possible or not available anywhere else

That's how I deal with facebook and Instagram. If it's only there, it basically doesn't exist and definitely doesn't want my business.

Found great smaller shops already when looking for things that do care for my business

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Post by herbst »

goku12 wrote: post #2

This is truly egregious. Facebook and Instagram are installed by default on many android phones and cannot be fully uninstalled. And even if asked for consent, many people may choose the harmful option by mistake or due to lack of awareness. It's alarming that these companies cannot be held to even the bare minimum standards of ethics. As an aside, there was a discussion a few days back where someone argued that bein…

> Facebook and Instagram are installed by default on many android phones and cannot be fully uninstalled

If you buy a phone with this kind of business practice. It's still your own choice to do so. Many good brands let you remove any app.

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Post by herbst »

tjpnz wrote: post #96
ethan_smith wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can use ADB (Android Debug Bridge) to disable pre-installed Facebook/Instagram apps without root via `pm disable-user` commands, effectively preventing them from running or collecting data.

I don't want their shit on my phone at all. Can I remove it entirely?

Buy a phone that doesn't sell your soul to the highest bidder. Or install an alternative OS.

You don't buy a bike and complain about the missing roof

Edit:// on my last Xiaomi I could remove anything with ADB, even definitely necessary apps, without root, do try it.

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Post by [deleted] »

smeej wrote: post #205
fivestones wrote: post #161

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Unless I’m remembering wrong, posting a public message on someone else’s profile was posting on their wall. Or was it called something else before it was somebody’s wall?

It didn't have a name. It wasn't really a "feature." You just went and posted on their "page" I guess I would call it. The change to being able to post things on your own page and expecting other people to come to your page and read them (because, again, no Feed) wasn't received well at first. Keep in mind, smartphones didn't exist yet, and the first ones didn't have selfie cameras even once they did. And the cameras…

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Post by djmips »

smeej wrote: post #322
dcrazy wrote: post #222

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I joined Thefacebook in 2005. The place on your page where posts from other people appeared was called the “wall” then.

Yeah, that's about when it changed. The lack of a wall was a very early situation. I joined in 2004, back when it was only open to Ivy League and Boston-area schools.

It was still acceptable to write on someone else's wall when they came to be called that. You can still do that now I think but it's quite uncommon and how it works is now complicated but settings.
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