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Re: Germany and Italy pressed to bring $245B of gold home from US

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Post by namibj »

holowoodman wrote: post #246
namibj wrote: post #117

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You know slightly different NMR machines are used to scan entire humans, right? They only really differ in scan pattern for this aspect. That's IIUC just a software change.

Afaik not really. The ones that scan humans are tuned for a specific proton resonance frequency, so they basically measure hydrogen density. But you get a 3D-Plot because they do a computed tomography of that density. The chemistry NMRs are spectrographs, so you dial through a whole frequency spectrum and look at the reflected/transmitted signal. With that you get different peaks for different nuclei plus some deviat…

Yeah right I looked again and also: MRI doesn't really work for highly conductive (bulk) samples: you can't get the RF in/out of the conductor due to skin effect.

Also proton frequency only....

Re: Germany and Italy pressed to bring $245B of gold home from US

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Post by bboygravity »

infecto wrote: post #314
bboygravity wrote: post #311

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You addressed only 1 of my example points and your post doesn't explain how USD is not essentially "printed" (digitally) out of thin air (or I'm too dumb to read which is entirely possible).

You actually had examples? I read your post and saw nothing but unsubstantiated conspiracy.

Look up the meaning of "failures to deliver" in the stock market. In short: it means stocks sold by market makers and never delivered. AKA: they take your money when you buy a stock, it appears in your account, but they didn't actually deliver anything.

Then look up how many of those happen daily in any US stock.

Or read up here: Naked, Short and Greedy: Wall Street's Failure to Deliver by Susanne Trimbath

Re: Germany and Italy pressed to bring $245B of gold home from US

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Post by infecto »

bboygravity wrote: post #322
infecto wrote: post #314

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You actually had examples? I read your post and saw nothing but unsubstantiated conspiracy.

Look up the meaning of "failures to deliver" in the stock market. In short: it means stocks sold by market makers and never delivered. AKA: they take your money when you buy a stock, it appears in your account, but they didn't actually deliver anything. Then look up how many of those happen daily in any US stock. Or read up here: Naked, Short and Greedy: Wall Street's Failure to Deliver by Susanne Trimbath

FTD has nothing in relationship to gold stored in the Fed’s vault. Surprised we would even jump there.

Now I ask again, do you have any proof that the Fed has taken the gold from these governments or are you simply guessing it’s possible?

Re: Germany and Italy pressed to bring $245B of gold home from US

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Post by raymond_goo »

SuperShibe wrote: post #87

The Germans in this article all appear to be aligned to either BSW (populist far-left, pro-Russia, anti-US) or AfD (populist far-right, pro-Russia). BSW wasn't even elected into the parliament and AfD, while being part of the parliament, has virtually no power due to not being part of the government coalition and all other parties sharing an informal agreement to not pass legislations with the help of AfD. What I'm t…

If 23% do not represent the German political landscape at all, I don't know what does...

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Post by int_19h »

parthdesai wrote: post #101
SuperShibe wrote: post #87

The Germans in this article all appear to be aligned to either BSW (populist far-left, pro-Russia, anti-US) or AfD (populist far-right, pro-Russia). BSW wasn't even elected into the parliament and AfD, while being part of the parliament, has virtually no power due to not being part of the government coalition and all other parties sharing an informal agreement to not pass legislations with the help of AfD. What I'm t…

Is far-left really pro-Russia or just anti-US? Not everyone that is anti-US (which a lot of people with common sense would be tbf) is pro-Russia

Not just in Germany but elsewhere, the rule of thumb is that libertarian socialists (anarchists etc) tend to be both anti-US and anti-Russia, while the more common and more authoritarian kind tend to be pro-whoever is anti West, including Russia, China, or places like Syria was under Assad.

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Post by int_19h »

NoOn3 wrote: post #318
welzel wrote: post #308

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Just to be clear: Russia has invaded Ukraine, has declared that the country has no right to exist and ukraine people will be exterminated, but it is NATO that is the aggressor? This is textbook russian propaganda.

No one unarmed was exterminated and no one say that will be exterminated. You're exaggerating. None of the unarmed people were harmed on purpose. Yes, there are crimes in war. And there are precedents when the perpetrators were arrested. Yes, some words about "existing" really don't sound nice and strange, but if you really want to figure all out, then you need to watch the original full speeches, rather than quotes…

For one thing, when you invade a foreign country, "we're only killing people who are armed and trying to defend their homeland" doesn't make it any less of a crime.

But also, the civilians who got shot in Bucha, and countless others in similar situation, would very much disagree.

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Post by int_19h »

NoOn3 wrote: post #301
dh2022 wrote: post #270

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Yeah, of course Russia does not want to invade Germany - it is just arming itself to the teeth. And of course Russia did not want to invade Ukraine in 2021 - they were just building up their military on the border since Mar 2021 [0]. So Ukraine was safe all the way up to the of morning Feb 24!!! Only those bad war-mongers would think that Russia was going to attack Ukraine . [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prelude_…

NATO is bigger and it has more soldiers and bigger armies, why do you think Russia will invade NATO, it's just ridiculous. :( It is not Russia that is increasing in territories, it is NATO that is approaching Russia over the past few decades.

Speaking as a Russian citizen, I remember hearing "NATO will invade us anytime now" pretty much since early 90s. Yet somehow in 30 years since then it is Russia, not NATO, which has repeatedly invaded its neighbors.

And the rhetoric that Russia is directing at the Baltic states - and has been for many years now - is largely indistinguishable from the pretext used to invade Ukraine. So those states at least have very good reasons to believe that they are next; and they are in NATO.

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Post by int_19h »

pydry wrote: post #278
amanaplanacanal wrote: post #274

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I'd have taken that too, with security guarantees . Otherwise what do you do when Russia comes back for another bite of the pie? That's why they want to join NATO.

Ok so youre in the sacrifice and die for nothing camp then. >Otherwise what do you do when Russia comes back for another bite The fact that a neutral ukraine isnt enough of a prize to sacrifice hundreds of thousands of lives capturing. They did give it independence in the first place after all.

"Give it independence" is a very misleading way to state it. Ukraine has declared its independence unilaterally; it's just that Russia wasn't really in a position to do anything about it then.

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Post by int_19h »

pydry wrote: post #296
geoka9 wrote: post #294

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Because small countries of Europe that don't want to be invaded by Russia seek to join the alliance that was specifically created to prevent such eventuality for its members.

The alliance exists to attack, not defend. That's why of the 4 wars it has taken part in in the last 30 years, 4 have been wars of aggression while 0 have been defensive (article 5 was invoked for 9/11 but occupying afghanistan wasnt a defensive move it was an imperial move). It's a dog eat dog world out there for sure but sometimes the 14 year old boy isnt safer joining the crips for protection from the bloods. Some…

This is nonsense. The primary motivation for NATO is defense - the fact that it was not involved in defensive wars is rather evidence of its extreme effectiveness, being strong enough collectively that nobody even tries. OTOH countries not in it have been invaded (like Georgia and Ukraine).
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