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Re: Android 16 is here

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Post by sudomateo »

ChocolateGod wrote: post #315
sudomateo wrote: post #221

The more I compare Material 3 Expressive to Liquid Glass the more I'm excited to switch back to a Pixel. I'm a fan of the use of color, motions, and different shapes versus transparency, minimal contrast, and little color. I'm on a iPhone 13 Pro Max right now that's still doing well but starting to show battery capacity age. Plus, it's the only non-USB-C device I own so I'd be happy to get rid of it.

I'd move to a pixel if it was the same hardware value as the corresponding Samsung or OnePlus, they always just seem to be a year or two behind.

I'm going to wait for the Pixel 10 to see what specs it has. I believe you're right though it's a bit behind on other manufacturers in terms of hardware. It would still be a jump for me coming from an iPhone 13.

Re: Android 16 is here

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Post by chasil »

Doohickey-d wrote: post #230
chasil wrote: post #199

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You likely mean the "Aero" stage. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Aero While many express nostalgia for Aero in Windows 7, Microsoft dismissed it in fairly harsh terms: 'Microsoft called the Aero interface it once championed and poured so much love upon "dated and cheesy".' https://www.theregister.com/2012/05/21/windows_8_aero_dead/ The thing with [Microsoft's] dictated GUIs is that they all end up on the tra…

There's also another version of the story of why they removed it: > So basically, Microsoft's claim of Aero being "cheesy" "and "dated" are just lies to cover up the fact where the original Surface RT is not powerful enough to handle them. https://old.reddit.com/r/windows/comments/38vyn7/the_true_re...

Yes, it was obvious that the Windows 8 focus on tablets (and Windows phone) would not work well with Aero, since their GPUs were lacking.

Re: Android 16 is here

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Post by skeaker »

cenamus wrote: post #234
octo888 wrote: post #226

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Oh, they also had the issue that one of the leading devs got forcibly conscripted. Quickly scanning GrapheneOS's posts I couldn't find any detail about the technical challenges. They'll probably post about it in the coming months

I mean, conscription is per definition forced, isn't it?

Yes, but the connotation here was "conscripted which is a bad thing that made them unhappy."

Re: Android 16 is here

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Post by charcircuit »

msgodel wrote: post #317
charcircuit wrote: post #314

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>Should you have the ability to run what you want on your phone Sure, but that doesn't require root to do. The OS can expose capabilities that apps want instead of requiring security to be entirely bypassed with root. >and copy the data from the app that you installed, after accepting the risks? No, because that violates Android's security model. If an app wants to have a authentication token live on a single device…

>It doesn't require root to do this >No you can't do this at all because it violates Android's security model You can choose one, and only one, or reject reason.

There is a difference between running whatever app you want and the os letting an app do anything it wants to.

Adding new capabilities to the OS does not necessarily break Android's security model. For example extending the window manager.

Re: Android 16 is here

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Post by msgodel »

charcircuit wrote: post #324
msgodel wrote: post #317

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>It doesn't require root to do this >No you can't do this at all because it violates Android's security model You can choose one, and only one, or reject reason.

There is a difference between running whatever app you want and the os letting an app do anything it wants to. Adding new capabilities to the OS does not necessarily break Android's security model. For example extending the window manager.

Apps are user agents. If the user wants something done there needs to be a mechanism to empower the app to do it, otherwise that's a design defect.

Again, if that's what he wants and Android can't do it without root then Android can't do what he wants without root.

Re: Android 16 is here

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Post by msgodel »

sagarpatil wrote: post #210

The worst part is I’m so deep in Apple ecosystem that it’s impossible to move to Android.

Export your contacts to rfc6350, use a mac to export your photos to a zip, put it all in git with the remote on a VPS and bail out.

None of the other stuff is worth worrying about.

Re: Android 16 is here

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Post by nogridbag »

NiekvdMaas wrote: post #246
villedespommes wrote: post #41

I'm really excited about the Desktop mode, now I can finally break free of Samsung!

It's not part of the stable release yet, but the beta version that was released today has an option to enable this: https://android-developers.googleblog.com/2025/06/developer-... I tried it and it works great - Dex-like experience with mouse and keyboard, on a stock Pixel phone.

That looks pretty amazing. I hope this means Google is committed to releasing a Pixel Tablet 2.

Re: Android 16 is here

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Post by yencabulator »

smusamashah wrote: post #132

Not available for Pixel/XL, Pixel 2/XL, Pixel 3/XL, Pixel 3a/XL, Pixel 4/XL, Pixel 4a, Pixel 4a 5G, Pixel 5, or Pixel 5a. I have Pixel 4a and I wanted to get Android 16 to get the smaller notification tile buttons back.

You haven't been getting even security updates for almost two years. The last Android version that supported 4a was Android 13, this is 16.

https://endoflife.date/pixel

Re: Android 16 is here

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Post by yencabulator »

idle_zealot wrote: post #86

It's deeply disappointing to see that the multitasking solution for tablets that Google and Apple have settled on is... desktop-style floating windows, but without workspaces or window snapping. There's so much space here to experiment with tiling views, scrolling columns of windows, whatever. Floating windows are cumbersome enough when you have a mouse and big display to spread things out on. I've tried this floatin…

Well, ChromeOS has both snapping and workspaces, and they intend to replace ChromeOS with Android, so I fully expect them to show up.
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