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Post by VBprogrammer »

djoldman wrote: post #300
immibis wrote: post #252

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At my university in New Zealand they didn't take attendance for lectures. You attended the lectures so you could learn stuff so you could pass the exams. It's surprising that isn't considered normal. (There's some nuance to that statement as science courses tende to have labs - I don't remember why first-year physics was a requirement for software engineering, but it was - mathematics courses tended to have weekly as…

That's how it was for me in college in the USA. As an aside, it's a little absurd that people wouldn't go to class given how much money they're paying. Private colleges are around $39k USD per year. That's a lot of dough per class-hour.

I was lax about going to certain classes. Not always because of laziness (though, I'll admit it was occasionally a factor) but often because the format of one person, who lacked any particular talent for teaching, reading mostly from notes or scribbling incomprehensible symbology on a blackboard in a room filed with hundreds of people wasn't really a teaching format that did anything for me.

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Post by globular-toast »

diggan wrote: post #17
gwbas1c wrote: post #14

If I was in the room, I'd be relieved. I always found that meetings at large companies dragged on unless there was a forcing factor (like a doorknock) that got someone to bring it to an end.

Suggestion: Have an agenda, have rules to religiously follow the agendas and help each other follow the agenda. Once completed, meeting over.

Even with an agenda, nobody wants to be the guy that interrupts people to get them back on topic.

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Post by globular-toast »

exhilaration wrote: post #3

The solution to the "50 minute meetings always stretch to an hour" problem is to start them at, say, 9:10am so there's a clean mental stop at 10am. If you schedule them for 9am of course nobody will stop at 9:50am.

In most places I've worked it's de rigueur to give people at least 5 mins to arrive before proceeding. Do people really just start meetings the instant they get in the room?!

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Post by SwtCyber »

gwd wrote: post #85

> When 2:50 rolled around and your meeting was supposed to end, do you think people actually ended the meeting? Noooooo. Absolutely not! At U of M, they solved this problem by having classes officially start 10 minutes after the time they were advertised as. That is, a class listed as being 10-11am was actually 10:10-11am; nobody showed up until 10:10. Sure, technically it's the same thing, but there's a pretty massi…

A rare case of institutional design that respects how people actually behave, not just how they're "supposed" to.

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Post by codethief »

EasyMark wrote: post #298
buzer wrote: post #101

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In Finland the universities (and I believe in many other European universities have/had this as well) there was "academic quarter" which meant that if something was scheduled for 10am it would actually start at 10:15am. IIRC if they used precise time (10:00) then it would actually start at that time. I've heard it dates back to when people didn't have easy access to precise time. It would allow students to hear the h…

so did things end at 11:15am as I imagine a lot of times there was something to be done in the next hour of 11AM?

At the universities I've been to classes were almost always 1½ hours, so until 11:45am.

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Post by SwtCyber »

mandevil wrote: post #174

A scoutmaster of mine had a theory. Everyone has their own different version of what "9:30" means- to some it's 9:25, to others 9:45. But there is only one 9:32. So he would use weird times like that, we're meeting at 6:07 today.

It breaks the autopilot habit of just rounding things off and rolling in late

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Post by SwtCyber »

kabdib wrote: post #158
gwbas1c wrote: post #14

If I was in the room, I'd be relieved. I always found that meetings at large companies dragged on unless there was a forcing factor (like a doorknock) that got someone to bring it to an end.

i was at a startup where meetings were stifling. i had code to write, but i was stuck in HOURS long meetings half the week while marketing and sales types droned on and on about stuff that was meaningless unless we had a product to sell. uh, guys? we have code to write walking back from lunch with my cow-orkers one day, i realized we were passing a clock store. i went inside and bought a not-too-expensive cuckoo cloc…

There's something beautifully old-school about using a literal cuckoo clock as a productivity tool

Re: Malicious compliance by booking an available meeting room

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Post by SwtCyber »

stkni wrote: post #119

Think I'm with Larry on this one. Someone should chair the meeting and there should be some expected outcome (decision) from it within the alotted time. If we're 45 mins in and no closer to an answer it's time to assign some investigative actions and regroup? Malicious compliance in this context is good, because it creates an environment where meetings end and everyone gets to pee?

It's kind of sad that basic human needs like bathroom breaks require policy intervention

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Post by dalmo3 »

PlunderBunny wrote: post #315
Stratoscope wrote: post #194

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Saratoga, CA does something similar. The twisty part of Quito Road, between Bicknell Road and Pollard road, has a speed limit of 25 mph. But the sharper turns have advisory speed signs (the yellow diamond kind) with numbers like 17, 19, 21, and 22 mph to catch drivers' attention and get them to slow down on these turns.

Not really the same thing, but in New Zealand, all speed limits are multiples of 10 (km/h), and all recommended safe speeds (e.g. for a sharp corner) end in ‘5’.

The 95 signs are hilarious.
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