What a sad day. It's the best page on the net by a wide margin. Hope they'll recover
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#322Earlier quoted context omitted.
There's a big difference between "upbeat music" and "positive culture". "Positive" in this sense isn't being used to mean "optimistic" or "happy". It's being used to mean "healthy for the world at large". Regardless of whether any of us agree that 4chan was a net-negative, it should be very clear that "music that doesn't have an upbeat sound or themes" is not inherently unhealthy, but "subcultures that are unhealthy…
https://www.4chan.org/ You're dismissing the entire site for a handful of events? How is 4chan unhealthy for the world, at large? It was and is a counterculture for discussing life as seen by its members.
They definitely have a PR issue then. Because of the handful of events, I've never been interested in hanging out there.
From some of the comments though, there might have been nice boards I would have enjoyed.
HN works for me though. (I can only spread myself so thin.)
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I think people also don't acknowledge how much terminology, slang and other culture originate and spread there. When it breaches into Twitter (usually through funposters) people kind of ignore the unsavoury origin and rewrite the history. The anonymous nature kind of provides that petri dish of "if it's strong culture, it'll survive or be modified."
I thought culture was a “solved problem” now that we have AI. I can’t keep up anymore.
Well either people thought my comment was to be taken literally, or they believe 4chan is culture and other hurting cultural gatherings like midsize live music venues were not.
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I think we can lament the old internet and still care nothing for 4chan.
Like it or not, 4chan was a major hub of Internet culture. Especially early on some of the best stuff on the internet happened on 4chan (and a good chunk of the worst, of course)
It's so funny to read this.
I've been involved in "internet culture" since the early to mid 90s.
The only thing that I heard about that ever came out of 4chan was toxicity.
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This is a pretty good take! It's because you could verbally attack and fight the 4chan idiots with a swarm of common sense and be lauded for doing that job. Doing the same on X will just get you banned for whatever reason Elon feels is best 'for the community'.
I dont understand why twitter is so prevalent in the tech community; and it's not like you can just 'not use it' - you are at a true disadvantage if you aren't on twitter because of how much discourse around new tech, private equity, etc transpires on it. I'm surprised a literal echo-chamber in which free speech is suppressed for disagreeing with the party line is responsible for so much productivity because of how m…
I don't know. I think you can just not use it. You might miss out on the daily chaff but anything of note will get reposted elsewhere.
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No, you'll need servers and enough network capacity to handle the load, an understanding and supportive hosting provider, a law degree or enough money to pay somebody with one to keep you out of court/jail/prison, a network of degenerates to provide traffic and content and/or a copy of the existing 4chan content, a stomach of steel to deal with the content moderation duties, and a moral compass so warped you think ho…
All content that violates the law of the United States is banned on 4chan. I don't know where you got that idea.
oh i guess in that case it is legal everywhere then cool cool cool kthxbye
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#327I feel too many people conflate /pol/ with the whole website. I enjoyed browsing through sfw boards like /tg/ (tabletop media), /ck/ (cooking) and /fit/ (fitness). I had long discussions about the SW sequels on /tv/ back in 2015-19. The readership was surprisingly diverse and the anonymity lead users to provide more focused replies. With bodybuilding.com gone, the blue boards felt like the last bastion of the old int…
the blue boards did have some slow overlap with pol in my experience - they were more distinct before 2014 or so and by 2016 I barely recognized /tg/ culture. I'm curious, why bodybuilding.com in particular? I think I've only heard of it once. I wonder if anyone on HN remembers stardestroyer.net or old weird tech forums?
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#328We've heard it time and time again that 4chan is the so called "last bastion of free speech on the internet" when this so called free speech is just being unapologetically racist and antisemitic. I hope its gone for good.
4chan being gone for good would've been a bad thing regardless of your views. All those people who used to come there and just talk wouldn't just cease to exist nor stop feeling the way they feel. At the very least, it's the devil you know.
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#329Earlier quoted context omitted.
Then you should also be worried about bugs that let you log into an SSH session without providing your SSH certificate, passkey or whatever. Authentication bypass can happen with pretty much any buggy authentication method. None of this is inherently a problem of passwords or basic auth.
Sure, but phpMyAdmin has a long history of major security holes. It's existence on a server tends to be a red flag.
Again, the premise was that phpMyAdmin is secured behind basic auth. It doesn't matter how secure or insecure phpMyAdmin is, it only matters how secure whatever webserver is that it is served through. phpMyAdmin code isn't even touched before the basic auth login was successful. Only after that, it becomes relevant, in that you either find a hole in phpMyAdmin itself, or you have to break another (hopefully strong) password for the MySQL login itself.
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#330Earlier quoted context omitted.
I dont understand why twitter is so prevalent in the tech community; and it's not like you can just 'not use it' - you are at a true disadvantage if you aren't on twitter because of how much discourse around new tech, private equity, etc transpires on it. I'm surprised a literal echo-chamber in which free speech is suppressed for disagreeing with the party line is responsible for so much productivity because of how m…
The feedback mechanism on Twitter allows you to find useful discussions of current affairs in less popular topics. Can you find a good discussion of current events in agribusiness on Reddit? No. On Facebook? No. But if you open up Twitter and search for Arthur Daniels and you'll find something useful. So, when the manager at a company wants to publicize, he has nowhere else to go. > I'm surprised a literal echo-chamb…
Let me make it clear because I don't want to come across as biased - Reddit, Facebook and platforms like it are 1000% worse and or just as bad, no contest from me on that part; the dialogue just skews a different way depending on the platform.
To the first point though, I guess I just don't understand how such niche and useful discussion ended up on twitter and remains there out of all places. It seems strange to find someone pushing moon-landing-is-fake conspiracies on the same site nuanced discussion occurs on some hyperfocused topic