Adobe deletes Bluesky posts after backlash • Hacker News Board

Re: Adobe deletes Bluesky posts after backlash

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Post by disconcision » Sat, Apr 12, 2025, 1:58 AM UTC

CamperBob2 wrote: post #284

skissane wrote: post #216

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> they have a legitimate argument that this is an unexpected, undeserved, unfair calamity for them, threatening to derail their lives, and lives of their dependents, across the entire sector - and therefore that laws should be changed to shield them, or compensate them for the loss. After all, that's what laws are for. Lots of people have had their lives disrupted by technological and economic changes before - entire…

Given society provided little or no compensation for prior such cases of disruption That's going to be hard for you to justify in the long run, I think. Virtually everybody who ever lost a job to technology ended up better off for it.

> Virtually everybody who ever lost a job to technology ended up better off for it.

this feels like a much stronger claim than is typically made about the benefits of technological progress

Re: Adobe deletes Bluesky posts after backlash

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Post by Peacefulz » Sat, Apr 12, 2025, 2:02 AM UTC

I still use PS7. No adobe creative cloud, and all you need to accomplish some awesome stuff.

Re: Adobe deletes Bluesky posts after backlash

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Post by drdaeman » Sat, Apr 12, 2025, 2:02 AM UTC

EasyMark wrote: post #311

simonw wrote: post #36

Yeah, they posted this: > Hey, we're Adobe! We're here to connect with the artists, designers, and storytellers who bring ideas to life. What's fueling your creativity right now? > Drop a reply, tag a creator, or share your latest work—we'd love to see what inspires you! That's such a bland, corporate message. It feels totally inauthentic. Do Adobe (a corporation) really "love to see what inspires you" or do they jus…

I'm not surprised but disheartened that people have so little going on in their life they thing trying to boycott a bsky corporate account is a good use of their time.

I think it's rather the opposite - there's way too much going on in their life, specifically stuff that they have no control over, so they vent all that stress wherever they can.

Re: Adobe deletes Bluesky posts after backlash

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Post by acyou » Sat, Apr 12, 2025, 2:06 AM UTC

RugnirViking wrote: post #270

Workaccount2 wrote: post #152

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The platforms should be paid then. Its a fools errand to go on a "free" platform and complain about corporate presence. If you are not paying, then those corporate bodies are.

this is just not true? I have (and I imagine most people over 25 have) used plenty of forums, wikis, and other social medias that are free as in beer, hosted by some guy with a computer in his garage, with technology from decades ago The better ones of them asked you to pay if you wanted to be able to post video/large images. In most of those spaces, corporate was nowhere to be seen. Sometimes they used banner ads, b…

We took our souls and carelessly poured them out into the machine, and later the robots came and sucked it all out, along with everything that made us special, unique, human.

Was it worth it? Was it really free? Or would we have done it knowing we would all eventually pay a terrible price?

Re: Adobe deletes Bluesky posts after backlash

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Post by rchaud » Sat, Apr 12, 2025, 2:06 AM UTC

RugnirViking wrote: post #270

Workaccount2 wrote: post #152

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The platforms should be paid then. Its a fools errand to go on a "free" platform and complain about corporate presence. If you are not paying, then those corporate bodies are.

this is just not true? I have (and I imagine most people over 25 have) used plenty of forums, wikis, and other social medias that are free as in beer, hosted by some guy with a computer in his garage, with technology from decades ago The better ones of them asked you to pay if you wanted to be able to post video/large images. In most of those spaces, corporate was nowhere to be seen. Sometimes they used banner ads, b…

Those places aren't worth their while, and blessed be they for that!

All a business cares about is maximum reach, so they will ignore the small sites in favour of the biggest aggregator for the lowest cost.

If somebody on a smaller site behaved in the disingenuous and spammy way brands do on social, they'd be banned. Bluesky is not doing that, so this should be an opportunity to genuinely engage with the audience instead of copy/pasting the cynical tactics they apply everywhere else.

Re: Adobe deletes Bluesky posts after backlash

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Post by sandspar » Sat, Apr 12, 2025, 2:06 AM UTC

Social media really brings out the best in people doesn't it? Dogpiling, self-congratulation, mimicry, dehumanization, scapegoating. It's so lucky for society that many people spend hours a day on there!

Re: Adobe deletes Bluesky posts after backlash

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Post by sandspar » Sat, Apr 12, 2025, 2:08 AM UTC

rchaud wrote: post #290

scarab92 wrote: post #278

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Platforms which drive away normal users with unwarranted hate become increasingly concentrated with toxic people over time. If bluesky don’t find a way to escape this spiral of driving away normal people and attracting toxic people it’s going to become a sort of left-wing 4chan.

Have a peek at the Facebook comments on Adobe's account. The sentiment is the same. We live in an economy where customers have no outlet to have their concerns heard, while companies set up shop on communal forums to blast their bullhorn. Why should communication be one way? It's interesting that you see this as a moderation issue for Bluesky rather than an opportunity for a billion dollar brand to rethink the way th…

Saying that BlueSky resembles Facebook comments isn't exactly a glowing review.

Re: Adobe deletes Bluesky posts after backlash

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Post by rchaud » Sat, Apr 12, 2025, 2:09 AM UTC

Alupis wrote: post #272

scheeseman486 wrote: post #189

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If they can't take the heat from their customers, that's their problem. And you can always subscribe to Adobe's email list.

I think we can safely assume 99% of the outraged posters have never once owned a legal copy of, nor subscribed to Adobe products. Outrage is a performance these days.

Contrarian takes without empirical evidence remain a rare occurrence however.

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Post by rchaud » Sat, Apr 12, 2025, 2:10 AM UTC

maxerickson wrote: post #310

rchaud wrote: post #309

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Enterprise-level budgets.

An annual subscription to the whole suite is less than a weeks pay for someone that would be using it in the US, so no need for the Enterprise-level.

Enterprise can pay the rising susbcription costs without blinking, a solo business will think twice.

Re: Adobe deletes Bluesky posts after backlash

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Post by bigstrat2003 » Sat, Apr 12, 2025, 2:11 AM UTC

gdulli wrote: post #81

ChocolateGod wrote: post #63

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Are you claiming cancel culture isn't real?

"Cancel culture" is just a term we started using to cope with seeing people we're sympathetic to being judged for their words or actions.

That's not true at all. You should read The Canceling of the American Mind (though get it from the library, because it's not really good enough to own imo). The authors very clearly lay out the evidence that there has in fact been an increase in the sort of online lynch mobs we call "cancel culture". It comes from both the left and the right, and the increase has been noticeable if you look at the data.

People have always tried to use social pressure to strike at people they didn't like. But there really has been a marked increase in occurrences in the last ten or so years.