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MLB says Yankees’ new “torpedo bats” are legal and likely coming

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Re: MLB says Yankees’ new “torpedo bats” are legal and likely coming

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From showing basketball to people who haven't watched a basketball game before.

But what if I have watched basketball and I don't watch it. Basketball is a boring game until there's 5 minutes left.

And then it takes 30 minutes to play the last 5 minutes... ugh.

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I don't disagree with any of this, I'm just saying that we know where this goes. It's just an arms races if you let it become one. If the pitching is getting too good, make it harder to pitch. >In short, you would rather have a lower BA and a higher home run rate even if it means a higher K rate, since home runs (and 2Bs) are so significantly more valuable than singles, and fly outs are also much more valuable than g…

> It's easy to point to home runs as entertaining, but they a ultimately rather boring. For die hard fans, you want more hits that end up in play, with more strategy, and more opportunity for mistakes and drama. You're not going to get that from home run derbies. There's a counter-example in Cricket. The game used to be a 5-day long battle with daily skirmishes and tactical changes required according to the ebbs and…

When baseball starts taking multiple days to finish a game, I'll obviously change my tune. I just think the scope of cricket is a unique and bizarre one.

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You're still only thinking about direct effects, not second-order effects. Keep workin' that noggin you'll get there.

okay, so one guy can choose to do it, and have his career burn bright but for a smaller amount of time than the ones that don't juice and extend their careers and life after playing. The ones that juice, will just get little asterisks next to their names in whatever records are kept. But you keep thinking your noggin is the end all be all.

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I play golf. I write about golf. I genuinely love golf. Over the last 50 years, we have slowly broken the game of golf by allowing incremental technological advancements -- just like this -- that make it easier to do something that is hard, that is making it easier to hit the sweet spot. I am sending a grave warning to baseball fans here from the future that you will arrive at by following this road. Golf used to be…

Golf is essentially a single player game that you play against yourself. If you don't like a particular thing in golf, then don't use that particular thing. And if it destroys the entertainment value, then don't watch that. This is very similar to how speedruns for video games have multiple categories with different rulesets, and you pick whichever one you like best.

>Golf is essentially a single player game that you play against yourself.

With modern golf, yes. This is only because of the advent of television. Match-play used to dominate the game, and is still advocated my many (myself included), which allows direct competition, and introduces risk-reward strategy depending on how the other player plays.

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I think it's quite cool (disclaimer: I am indeed a dirty Yankees fan) Hitting is really hard. If you feel up to it, and can find a public batting cage near you that has a fast pitch machine (usually maxes out 75-85mph which is 20+ mph less than your typical MLB fastball), give it a shot. When you hit the ball away from the sweet spot, especially on the parts closer to your hands, it really freaking hurts and throws o…

I'd like to see a slow-mo shot of a bad hitting a ball in the 'sweet spot' and not in the sweet spot, to see how they differ.

I assume that when not hit in the sweet spot a lot of the energy gets transformed into vibrations in the bat. Those vibrations then hurt your wrist/arm because flesh absorbs ~100 Hz vibrations far more than wood does.

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>The data show It's the clubs and everyone knows it but nobody wants to admit it because the club manufacturers are the money behind the game. You give a pro a persimmon driver and 70's blades and it doesn't matter if they're hitting a modern ball or the pre-pro v's from the 90s... you can't hit it out of your shoes because you won't be able to hit the sweet spot. Yes, the ball is a problem, but it's not the problem.…

I don't know as much about golf as you, but I have the urge to object to "finesse" being used to describe being able to hit a smaller sweetspot. Thinking of tennis, I would say finesse should be used to describe being able to vary your swing, putting "english" on the ball, soft tap dink shots, etc. pros are going to be better with any type of equipment, and they're going to be better at finesse, but doesn't a bigger…

By "finesse" I just mean that the sweet spot is to small to consistently hit with a full powered swing, so by doing that, you're taking a huge risk. That's the way it was in the 70's, but it's just not that way any longer. The idea is that there needs to be a tradeoff between power and accuracy.

Here is Sam Snead in his prime: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjEJgC5nYXw

Here is Bryson warming up today: https://www.reddit.com/r/golf/comments/1joeiap/vijay_just_lo...

It's like absolute night and day. It used to be a combination of balance and power. Now it's just brute force. The way Bryson is playing just isn't possible with a persimmon.

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Golf is essentially a single player game that you play against yourself. If you don't like a particular thing in golf, then don't use that particular thing. And if it destroys the entertainment value, then don't watch that. This is very similar to how speedruns for video games have multiple categories with different rulesets, and you pick whichever one you like best.

>Golf is essentially a single player game that you play against yourself. With modern golf, yes. This is only because of the advent of television. Match-play used to dominate the game, and is still advocated my many (myself included), which allows direct competition, and introduces risk-reward strategy depending on how the other player plays.

Well, even match-play is about as interactive as running a race.

Very different from the direct interaction you have in a game like Baseball.

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I think it's quite cool (disclaimer: I am indeed a dirty Yankees fan) Hitting is really hard. If you feel up to it, and can find a public batting cage near you that has a fast pitch machine (usually maxes out 75-85mph which is 20+ mph less than your typical MLB fastball), give it a shot. When you hit the ball away from the sweet spot, especially on the parts closer to your hands, it really freaking hurts and throws o…

I play golf. I write about golf. I genuinely love golf. Over the last 50 years, we have slowly broken the game of golf by allowing incremental technological advancements -- just like this -- that make it easier to do something that is hard, that is making it easier to hit the sweet spot. I am sending a grave warning to baseball fans here from the future that you will arrive at by following this road. Golf used to be…

Don’t you already want to hit the baseball as hard as you can at every opportunity? Just with the caveat that you need to develop skill with using a one-size-fits-all bat? Is bunting and going for balls that big of a deal currently, that a player who could rock one into left field would decide not to?

Surely any strategy around loading up bases to stack the deck for your strongest hitter remains, it seems like this levels between hitters more than from hitter to pitcher?

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I play golf. I write about golf. I genuinely love golf. Over the last 50 years, we have slowly broken the game of golf by allowing incremental technological advancements -- just like this -- that make it easier to do something that is hard, that is making it easier to hit the sweet spot. I am sending a grave warning to baseball fans here from the future that you will arrive at by following this road. Golf used to be…

Everything you described about golf has already happened in MLB. Babe Ruth’s wood bat was 44 oz. Today’s wood bat in MLB are ~33 oz. The bat Babe Ruth used was so heavy he literally had to swing the bat different than how players can swing the bat today. There’s a short video on this here: https://youtu.be/P_uiHUJg7zs https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baseball_bat —- Fishing has even undergone this technical change. FF…

Quick tip in case you don't have a good sense of what an ounce feels like: It's exactly 5 quarters (the coin).

So the difference between Babe's bat and today's is about the weight of 55 quarters (a roll and a half). Years of doing laundry at laundromats have given me a keen sense of how much handfuls of quarters weigh, so I find this actually pretty handy.

Just in case:

* A nickel is exactly 5 grams.

* A penny (1982+) is 2.5 grams.

* A dime is 0.08 ounces.

* A quarter is 0.2 ounces.

* 5 rolls of nickels = 1 kilogram

* 2 rolls of quarters = 1 pound.

Why did the U.S. Mint switch between even metric and even imperial units? Probably has to do with the changing metals in those coins. That said, the new small dollar coin is 8.1g / 0.286oz which makes no sense at all. It is, however, exactly 2mm thick.

Re: MLB says Yankees’ new “torpedo bats” are legal and likely coming

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Two players used the bats. I'm not a Yankees fan, but all these articles are making it seem like the bats are the reason. That does not explain why the rest of the lineup went off. Perhaps poor pitching is the better explanation. Too much is being made of these bats. Also, golf club technology basically does the same thing. Everything is about making a bigger sweet spot. Oversize drivers and irons didn't seem to ruin…

Everyone loves a "one dirty secret they don't want you to know about!" article. I wonder what it is about human psychology that we're drawn to these kinds of stories.
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