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Re: Crew-9 Returns to Earth

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post #86

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Berger is an excellent journalist. He’s very knowledgeable about space topics, has good sources, and has been extremely fair to Musk in the past. When he says it’s a “throne of lies”, a line has been crossed.

Just noting 'throne of lies' is a subheading and not in the body of the article. I don't know how Ars Technica does things, but in some news outlets a separate editor have control over titles and subheading rather than the author of the article.

Maybe, but he did write

> And still, the lies came.

Re: Crew-9 Returns to Earth

#322
post #80

I'm going ahead and deciding that astronaut is no longer the awesome job I thought it was when I was younger. I'm good on that.

Today, being a NASA astronaut is kind of a dud job. There are about 50 active astronauts at the moment, and not very many flights for them. Peak was around 150, in the Shuttle era. With 135 Shuttle flights, with up to eight people aboard, most of them got a chance to go up, usually more than once. Not today. Another astronaut comments on what the Crew-9 people can expect: "The returning astronauts will "struggle to w…

Flights to Mars in about 5 years though! I can't imagine how amazing it would be to be one of the first geologists getting out on foot and exploring those canyons, mountains, lava tubes and caves...

Re: Crew-9 Returns to Earth

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post #248

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Pure ideological drivel. Anti technology.

Eric Berger used to be a major standout from them, and has traditionally never delved into the partisan nonsense. I've recommended him, on this account alone, countless times. He was a diamond surrounded by a pile of crap. It's extremely out of character and the writing on this exact topic is somewhat contradicted by other articles he himself wrote on it, like this [1] one. I have a suspicion he's being pressured to…

When you have the owner of the company which provides your space flight lying about spaceflight and nasa, calling the commander of the space station an idiot, and the president making total lies up about the entire process, you can't be apolitical.

Re: Crew-9 Returns to Earth

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Republican Ronald Reagan defeated Carter in the 1980 presidential election. Although Deputy Secretary of State Warren Christopher had completed negotiations under Algerian auspices to free the American hostages in Tehran, President Carter and Secretary of State Edmund S. Muskie, suffered to their last day in office. On January 20, 1981, the hostages were finally freed—but only after Ronald Reagan had been sworn in as president.

Re: Crew-9 Returns to Earth

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Eric Berger has a good summary on the narrative: https://arstechnica.com/space/2025/03/can-nasa-remain-nonpar...

Their opening paragraph immediately attempts to trigger partisan responses. A bit off putting. Then this line: "NASA—not the Biden administration, which all of my reporting indicates was not involved in any decision-making—decided the best and safest option"... NASA is part of the executive branch. So yes, it was the Biden administration. I don't necessarily agree with Musk that the delay was politically motivated, b…

Sir, with all due respect - don't you think there could be different meanings for the term "administration"?

Re: Crew-9 Returns to Earth

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post #255

There are much worse places to wait for a flight home. How Trump and Musk acted is just ridiculous and maybe shows that the are missing the bigger picture in complex situations or lack people close to them whole tell them that an action might be a useless publicity stunt or worse have negative impacts further down the road.

> How Trump and Musk acted is just ridiculous

That depends on if the astronauts' return mission was delayed by the previous regime that controlled NASA. It seems like a pretty rational (if unethical) move for Biden's team to attempt to delay things to avoid giving his political rivals a big PR victory. Honestly though, any conversation to that effect would have happened behind closed doors and I doubt that even Musk knows exactly why they decided to delay things.

Re: Crew-9 Returns to Earth

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post #291

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Yeah, "no one wants to outright explain what happened" is called "chilling effects" and is one of the explicit goals of an authoritarian regime like the one we have in the US now. Nobody wants to get fired and get death threats just for speaking plainly, so most people don't. Every once in awhile someone will decide it's worth the cost, but most people most of the time will decide it isn't.

> authoritarian regime There was an election. Someone won. Someone lost. HN is not a place for baseless conspiracy theories. You’ve been here long enough to know better.

"Authoritarian" is a philosophy of how to govern. It is orthogonal to whether the government was fairly elected.

(It's true that many authoritarian regimes seek to eliminate or corrupt elections, but being fairly elected is compatible with being authoritarian.)

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if $50m per year enough for the Starlink services needed in Ukraine?

no - it's a tiny fraction of the actual cost. so it's not "free" but it's massively subsidized to the point of being nearly free when it's a country paying for it

In a high-development high-capital low-marginal cost it's tricky to determine the "actual cost". The marginal cost is minimal. The opportunity cost is minimal too (not like the satellites over Ukraine could be providing connectivity for other congested areas).

Re: Crew-9 Returns to Earth

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Eric Berger used to be a major standout from them, and has traditionally never delved into the partisan nonsense. I've recommended him, on this account alone, countless times. He was a diamond surrounded by a pile of crap. It's extremely out of character and the writing on this exact topic is somewhat contradicted by other articles he himself wrote on it, like this [1] one. I have a suspicion he's being pressured to…

In the linked article he stated: “For what it is worth, all of the reporting done by Ars over the last nine months suggests the decision to return Wilmore and Williams this spring was driven by technical reasons and NASA's needs on board the International Space Station, rather than because of politics.”

Read the article I linked above, also written by Eric Berger! Butch confirmed Elon's claim that he made an offer to bring them home last year was accurate. So we know that that offer was made, and must have been rejected. What we don't know is why.

But the real thing here is that Eric Berger has written extensively about the political games NASA plays or (depending on one's perspective) is compelled to play. They support a lot of fundamentally flawed programs that are either a complete waste of money or will never go anywhere, like SLS/Artemis. The reason they do this is because, in NASA's case, their funding depends on it and, in the astronauts' case, because they'll never fly again if they don't play ball.

So you don't simply take things NASA says at face value - again something he has written about ad nauseum. His understanding of the industry, and the games surrounding it, are part of what made (and hopefully in the future continues to make) him such an excellent reporter. But this latest article just dumps all of that and is written with all the insight and worldview of somebody on /r/politics.

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