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GSA Eliminates 18F

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Re: GSA Eliminates 18F

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Everyone should watch the director of the Office of Management and Budget, Russell Vought, speak on government workers: We want the bureaucrats to be traumatically affected. When they wake up in the morning, we want them to not want to go to work because they are increasingly viewed as the villains. We want their funding to be shut down so that the EPA can’t do all of the rules against our energy industry because the…

at some point the oil will run out it is a finite resource let them go crazy in the last 75 years

EVs and all that stuff were nothing more than a toy to play the charged up games the barons / slavers play

Re: GSA Eliminates 18F

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Everyone should watch the director of the Office of Management and Budget, Russell Vought, speak on government workers: We want the bureaucrats to be traumatically affected. When they wake up in the morning, we want them to not want to go to work because they are increasingly viewed as the villains. We want their funding to be shut down so that the EPA can’t do all of the rules against our energy industry because the…

Uhhh is there a full clip because 18 seconds of what looks like a speech seems like cherry picking.

Re: GSA Eliminates 18F

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Given Musk has inserted industry CEOs into agencies where they definitely have conflicts of interests, the other goal is to privatize the scraps.

The most important task now is for every civil servant and citizen to maintain a paper trail on what they can. So that when this gets litigated, everyone who broke the law is convicted.

lol i envy people like you my friend it is a feudal oligarchy wake up learn to read the graffiti

Re: GSA Eliminates 18F

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post #178

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Unless of course you're owed a refund, in which case they'll hold your money and pay you interest on it (at least for a few years.) ...but then tax you on the interest they paid you if you claim it.

My understanding was they don't pay interest on tax refunds, but you pay interest on unpaid tax liabilities. Do you have a source handy? My Google-fu is failing and only bringing up interest on unpaid taxes.

If the refund is paid in less than 45 days after the tax filing deadline or the day you file your taxes, they will pay you interest. See here: https://www.irs.gov/payments/interest#pay

Re: GSA Eliminates 18F

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Incorrect. Their goal is to dissolve these agencies, to reduce regulation that burden certain industries.

But 18f? They've been one of the most visible streamliners of government bureaucracy we've seen.

They want to make government bureaucracy less streamline, so they can point out how inefficient it is and therefore should be abolished (ignoring the fact that they sabotaged it).

Re: GSA Eliminates 18F

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post #322

Everyone should watch the director of the Office of Management and Budget, Russell Vought, speak on government workers: We want the bureaucrats to be traumatically affected. When they wake up in the morning, we want them to not want to go to work because they are increasingly viewed as the villains. We want their funding to be shut down so that the EPA can’t do all of the rules against our energy industry because the…

Uhhh is there a full clip because 18 seconds of what looks like a speech seems like cherry picking.

What kind of context do you think would excuse that sentiment? Given his extensive public record, would you argue that this is somehow out of character for him? It seems rather consistent based on the rest of his career:

https://www.economist.com/united-states/2025/01/03/russ-voug...

Re: GSA Eliminates 18F

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A challenging hypothesis that made me think deeply. My perspectives as a non-American who follows their lib / left publications and SM...

Founded on stolen land is historically accurate AFAIK.

Slavery was practised in some regions but I don't remember being told that the US was founded on it.

I have been told that some sections are racist and sexist, especially in so-called "red" states. These beliefs seem to be whitewashed by right media using euphemisms like "all lives matter" or "pro-life".

But the nation itself was not painted as sexist or racist. Indeed, it was often described as mostly welcoming of all races and immigrants.

I don't think it's been called an illegitimate nation and don't see it as such. Rather manipulative and bullying. With bad healthcare and ruthless capitalism. But still a better values-based policeman than the USSR or Russia or China.

I see Trump admin as a higher level success of the racist sexist sections. It is destruction. But by the wrong section of society on the better sections. I see it not as restorative justice but as a path to worse future injustice.

Are those who talked about all this to blame for these consequences? Observing a phenomenon to analyze, criticize, and predict is something we all do. They were just the messengers of a phenomenon that was already in motion.

The phenomenon was irrational brainwashing using euphemisms and disinfo to whitewash unethical ideas, done by the US rightwing media and its corporate backers.

Re: GSA Eliminates 18F

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Everyone should watch the director of the Office of Management and Budget, Russell Vought, speak on government workers: We want the bureaucrats to be traumatically affected. When they wake up in the morning, we want them to not want to go to work because they are increasingly viewed as the villains. We want their funding to be shut down so that the EPA can’t do all of the rules against our energy industry because the…

And I though professor Snyder was dramatic about decapitation strike. Trump will for be remembered as Gorbachov of US

Far worse. They've crossed the rubicon. We'll have a nasty period of civil unrest and conflict. I'd put 50/50 odds on a military junta within the decade.

Re: GSA Eliminates 18F

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I don't see any evidence that 18F was any more "far-left" than tech workers on average.

The tweet the GP linked – https://x.com/lukerosiak/status/1885523747425399247 – mentioned they wrote a Slack bot to lecture people about using inclusive language. I don't think that is average for US tech workers. I don't believe the vast majority of US tech firms have such a thing. I wouldn't call that "far left" myself – although "far left" as used by American conservatives is a pejorative colloquialism whose meani…

This is like tiny stuff. What fundamentally matters is the main projects they're working on and if they're doing a good job with that or not.

Maybe a new administration want to to change the culture at GSA/18F. Fine, they can do that.

Nuking an entire department and chucking out a significant chunk of work they've done because of a Slack chatbot and a few minor documents/policies is just mental. It's vindictive score-setting and an ideological purge.

Re: GSA Eliminates 18F

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The executive cannot just unilaterally shut down departments created by acts of congress. That's what makes it illegal.

18F was not created via act of Congress, as far as I have been able to tell. Do you see a source that shows otherwise?

I don't know about 18F, but the shutdowns are far more widespread than that.
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