Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting • Hacker News Board

Re: Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting

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Post by soared » Fri, Feb 28, 2025, 9:12 PM UTC

pillefitz wrote: post #229

Dear Americans, please do something. Protest, write letters to congressmen etc. We Germans went through all of this 90 years ago..

Does anyone know what an average citizen can do that will have an impact? I’ve called my reps office in DC before but I don’t know if that does anything.

Re: Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting

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Post by Timber-6539 » Fri, Feb 28, 2025, 9:12 PM UTC

hayst4ck wrote: post #141

The American government has been compromised by Russia. It no longer represents American interests, but Russian interests. Whether the senior powers in America are compromised, complicit, or opportunist, it doesn't matter. America is being damaged. Russian interests are being prioritized over American interests. Our military is too powerful for direct conflict, so alternative conflict against our political structure…

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Re: Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting

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Post by whalesalad » Fri, Feb 28, 2025, 9:12 PM UTC

That meeting is one of the most infurating things I have ever witnessed. We are 100% cooked.

Re: Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting

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Post by worldsayshi » Fri, Feb 28, 2025, 9:12 PM UTC

hayst4ck wrote: post #141

The American government has been compromised by Russia. It no longer represents American interests, but Russian interests. Whether the senior powers in America are compromised, complicit, or opportunist, it doesn't matter. America is being damaged. Russian interests are being prioritized over American interests. Our military is too powerful for direct conflict, so alternative conflict against our political structure…

A somewhat adjacent interpretation is that he doesn't care about democracy. And so why would he care if Ukraine got invaded. He wants to be a king or emperor or whatever. If Putin takes Ukraine the idea of kings being back gets more normalized.

Re: Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting

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Post by liuliu » Fri, Feb 28, 2025, 9:13 PM UTC

nrawe wrote: post #297

So, watching the video as a brit with a number if Ukrainian friends and colleagues, my first reaction is that this is the Trump Whitehouse looking for a cheap win. However, I think their calculation here speaks to the difficulty of the current situation. Putting aside the morality, sovereign integrity, and such: the situation appears to be entering/in a stalemate. The Ukrainian forces have done well to proactively ta…

> I think they could argue for greater security architecture (i.e. part of NATO but no nukes) to prevent repeat. But otherwise I can appreciate why the current administration is where its at.

The current administration is redundantly clear that it won't allow Ukraine to join NATO to avoid antagonize Russia.

Re: Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting

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Post by kevin_thibedeau » Fri, Feb 28, 2025, 9:13 PM UTC

duxup wrote: post #72

I wish the EU was more ... united. Most of the nations were woefully slow to act with Ukraine (hey let's send some token helmets). They've got a totalitarian regime invading democracies in their back yard but don't seem all that united about it ....

They're running the same playbook they did with Yugoslavia. Sit around and do nothing until the US takes control. Not going to work out this time with the felon operating in chaos monkey mode.

Re: Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting

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Post by sigmarule » Fri, Feb 28, 2025, 9:13 PM UTC

hayst4ck wrote: post #141

The American government has been compromised by Russia. It no longer represents American interests, but Russian interests. Whether the senior powers in America are compromised, complicit, or opportunist, it doesn't matter. America is being damaged. Russian interests are being prioritized over American interests. Our military is too powerful for direct conflict, so alternative conflict against our political structure…

I'm always cautious about saying something like this for fear of sounding hyperbolic. But good lord, watching this video right after reading about the administration's change in stance on Russian cyber threats [1] really chips away at any remaining room for ambiguity.

[1] https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/feb/28/trump-russia...

Re: Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting

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Post by sys_64738 » Fri, Feb 28, 2025, 9:13 PM UTC

I've never felt this embarrassed to be an American in recent years. To all our foreign friends in computing, the majority of people in the US are not caricatures of POTUS and his sock puppet sidekick.

Re: Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting

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Post by guax » Fri, Feb 28, 2025, 9:13 PM UTC

fullshark wrote: post #233

"This is gonna be great television I will say that." - Donald Trump's last words as the confrontation ended. Just insanity.

His disconnection with reality is expected. I would be surprised if he understood or had any empathy to realities he doesn't conceive. The real change was in the GOP allowing and buying in on all of these.

Re: Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting

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Post by scoofy » Fri, Feb 28, 2025, 9:13 PM UTC

pillefitz wrote: post #229

Dear Americans, please do something. Protest, write letters to congressmen etc. We Germans went through all of this 90 years ago..

What do you think we've been doing? I've spent literally two decades of my life advocating policies to try to prevent this from happening... the left is blind to their decadence and the right has gone insane.