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Introducing Outlook.com - Modern Email for the Next Billion Mailboxes

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Re: Introducing Outlook.com - Modern Email for the Next Billion Mailboxes

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Does it still do top quoting?

Oh dearie, it basically elevated top quoting into a design principle, showing a "conversation view" with the newest message on top (twitter-like). It seems the era of replying to individual bits and pieces of an email is over -- or even in general, long form email writing is a thing of the past.

Re: Introducing Outlook.com - Modern Email for the Next Billion Mailboxes

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The interface is currently broken in Australia where a "ninemsn" logo in the top left corner has pushed the menu bar down to obscure the top of the menu and mail listing panes. Other than that - looks like a big improvement to Hotmail.

If you do a hard refresh it should be fixed. And there's always the option of filtering it `live.com##div.c_htr` :)

Re: Introducing Outlook.com - Modern Email for the Next Billion Mailboxes

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I click on my account picture in the top right, then click on "Add account" and log into the other one. Presto, two accounts. Disclaimer: I am about 99% certain this is not some weird internal Google feature (not on the gmail team, don't worry), but it's also been > 1 week since I had to go through this performance so I may have forgotten some detail.

And then when you click on some Google service it always logs you in with a wrong account. Good luck trying to add something to calendar by clicking to a link.

I've just had a quick test and it actually does okay; clicking on "calendar" opens the calendar for the account I'm currently looking at.

I guess it might not work well if you click a random link somewhere with two accounts open simultaneously, although I have a bit of sympathy for them there because that does seem kinda tricky to solve.

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And I'm going to hope and pray that google stops screwing with their interface design. Gmail was perfect.

>> Gmail was perfect. Comments about perfect technology keep popping up on hn. I would think that claiming any technology is "perfect" is a little self-defeating coming from a tech startup news site? The very core of what we all stand for here is advancing mankind (or making the world a better place) through whatever means we are capable (most often technology). Viewing existing technologies as "perfect" closes the m…

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Re: Introducing Outlook.com - Modern Email for the Next Billion Mailboxes

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I really like the way they use text in the user interface instead of graphical symbols. When Google introduced their new buttons it took some time to get used to remember which one did what.

Google has been probably quite successful in monetizing their web mail. It can be sometimes annoying for users, but I believe in the long run it is better to be using a system that has a viable business model behind it.

One thing where Microsoft could compete would be support for third party apps. I think there could be some possibilities for innovation on this area. Something that would strike a balance between security and flexibility. With GMail the options seem to be either gadgets (pretty limited) or giving full IMAP access to 3rd party apps (too much power).

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And conversely so with Microsoft employees and similar criticisms. Nobody likes to the think they work for The Man or some kind of corporate tyrant, most truly believe they bringing value to the lives of their users as opposed to exploiting them (even incidentally). Google is just as susceptible to trust issues as Microsoft or anyone else. Every time Google is caught violating privacy it's always an "accident", like…

I'm tired of people making insinuations about some sinister motive behind the WiFi logging without evidence. How did that debacle "align with Google's business interests"? What use is there for fragments of WiFi payload data logged from a moving vehicle that also happens to be hopping WiFi frequencies? If there was any intent to exploit it, wouldn't you try to log more comprehensively? That is, by grabbing full HTTP…

     How did that debacle "align with Google's business interests"?
Payload data can be used to inform their advertising efforts.

Two other points:

1. After an engineer alerted his supervisor of the "accident" it continued anyway so even if it was a sincere accident, nobody gave a enough of shit to rectify it.

2. Google still has the data two years after they were supposed to have deleted it, which they blame on communication issues as to how to delete it. Is Google saying the don't having the engineering know how to properly dispose of data if needed.

http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Data-Storage/Google-Failed-to-Delet...

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