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Re: Ghostty 1.0

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Post by geodel »

Udo wrote: post #300
mitchellh wrote: post #276

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This isn't a company, I'm not trying to convince you to use it, this is more of a personal art project. If that doesn't vibe with you that's completely fine. You're happy to not use it. I'm happy whether you use it or not. It's all good mate. (The first sentence in the docs page does explain what it is but if that's too much for you, it's all good.)

> You're happy to not use it. I'm happy whether you use it or not. I think you misunderstood the OP. The criticism was about the landing page, not the project. And fwiw , it's not unwarranted. Putting the words "terminal emulator" somewhere on the page would make less people bounce off. You may be fine with them bouncing off, but still, I think it was meant as constructive criticism.

> I hate things in "if you know then you know" category. This is one of them.

A little too constructive I guess.

Re: Ghostty 1.0

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Post by turnsout »

I ran into some funkiness once I ssh’d into a FreeBSD box. The shell history was wonky, and goaccess wouldn’t launch at all, complaining about the terminal environment, which I’ve never seen. With that said, this looks like an awesome project and I’ll be following it closely!

Re: Ghostty 1.0

#323

Post by torstenvl »

hombre_fatal wrote: post #312
torstenvl wrote: post #308

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's constructive criticism. You don't have to respond with "Well get fucked then"

It's okay to filter people out who are too uninterested to click a "Documentation" link yet vocal enough to come post about it. It works for https://www.midjourney.com/home and apparently this project too with its 1100+ upvotes.

No, it isn't okay to filter people out for giving helpful feedback solely because you don't like the feedback.

It's especially not okay to be so rude on HN. "Please don't post shallow dismissals"

Re: Ghostty 1.0

#324

Post by codetrotter »

When I try to ssh into one of my servers using this terminal I get the following:

  missing or unsuitable terminal: xterm-ghostty
  Connection to xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx closed.
(IP address removed by me.)

It turned out that this is associated with how I automatically run tmux by having the following kind of config for how I connect to that server.

  Host server3000
   IdentityFile ~/.ssh/host_specific/foo/bar/server3000/id_ed25519_baz
   RequestTTY yes
   RemoteCommand /usr/bin/env tmux new-session -A -s '%L'
Whereas if I outcomment the RemoteCommand setting in my ~/.ssh/config of the laptop I'm connecting form, I can connect fine even using Ghostty as my terminal and from

  env | grep ^TERM=
I get output

  TERM=xterm-256color
in the initial normal shell.

And if I run tmux, then inside of it from

  env | grep ^TERM=
I get output

  TERM=tmux-256color
So there seems to be some termcap stuff I'd have to figure out if I want to use Ghostty and still be able to run tmux automatically in the way I'm currently doing without problem when using the Terminal that ships with macOS and ssh'ing into my servers.

Re: Ghostty 1.0

#325

Post by btheunissen »

torstenvl wrote: post #323
hombre_fatal wrote: post #312

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's okay to filter people out who are too uninterested to click a "Documentation" link yet vocal enough to come post about it. It works for https://www.midjourney.com/home and apparently this project too with its 1100+ upvotes.

No, it isn't okay to filter people out for giving helpful feedback solely because you don't like the feedback. It's especially not okay to be so rude on HN. "Please don't post shallow dismissals"

The original commenter posted a shallow dismissal by putting the effort into posting a comment without clicking a single button on the page :)

Re: Ghostty 1.0

#326

Post by torstenvl »

btheunissen wrote: post #325
torstenvl wrote: post #323

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, it isn't okay to filter people out for giving helpful feedback solely because you don't like the feedback. It's especially not okay to be so rude on HN. "Please don't post shallow dismissals"

The original commenter posted a shallow dismissal by putting the effort into posting a comment without clicking a single button on the page :)

No. He didn't post any kind of dismissal at all.

Re: Ghostty 1.0

#327

Post by matrixhelix »

codetrotter wrote: post #324

When I try to ssh into one of my servers using this terminal I get the following: missing or unsuitable terminal: xterm-ghostty Connection to xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx closed. (IP address removed by me.) It turned out that this is associated with how I automatically run tmux by having the following kind of config for how I connect to that server. Host server3000 IdentityFile ~/.ssh/host_specific/foo/bar/server3000/id_ed25519_b…

https://ghostty.org/docs/help/terminfo

Re: Ghostty 1.0

#328

Post by fishgoesblub »

mitchellh wrote: post #280
fishgoesblub wrote: post #22

I initially scoffed when I read "platform-native UI" as I've found programs made in Electron typically proclaim something similar when they are anything but native, so when I saw it used GTK for Linux (SwiftUI for MacOS) my interests were piqued. Always fun to mess around with new terminal emulators. edit: alas, it doesn't support bitmap fonts..

You can get pixel perfect bitmap fonts by using their TrueType conversions and using fractional point font sizes. There are dozens of bitmap enthusiasts that were in the beta and they're totally convinced because well... it's pixel identical. I've noted before in issues I'm open to supporting bitmap fonts if someone contributes it, but not interested in adding it myself. The workaround above is very good.

When using the original Terminus font failed, I tried the TTF version (Terminess) which in VSCode at specific point sizes is crisp and sharp. But with Ghostty, it was blurry and hard to read. At that point I gave up trying.

Re: Ghostty 1.0

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Post by commandersaki »

worldmerge wrote: post #245
mitchellh wrote: post #48

Ghostty got a lot of hype (I cover this in my reflection below), but I want to make sure I call out that there is a good group of EXCELLENT terminals out there, and I'm not claiming Ghostty is strictly better than any of them. Ghostty has different design goals and tradeoffs and if it's right for you great, but if not, you have so many good choices. Shout out to Kitty, WezTerm, Foot in particular. iTerm2 gets some ha…

Just downloaded it because of the animation on the site. How did you make that? it's cute. The terminal is good. I don't have any issues with the stock mac os terminal app but I'll give yours a go for a bit. I can't tell exactly how, but it does feel faster - I'm not sure exactly how it is but it looks like it renders text faster.

Stock Terminal.app doesn’t do 256 or 24-bit colour, that’s really the big thing that drew me to ghostty.

Re: Ghostty 1.0

#330

Post by twoparachute45 »

torstenvl wrote: post #323
hombre_fatal wrote: post #312

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's okay to filter people out who are too uninterested to click a "Documentation" link yet vocal enough to come post about it. It works for https://www.midjourney.com/home and apparently this project too with its 1100+ upvotes.

No, it isn't okay to filter people out for giving helpful feedback solely because you don't like the feedback. It's especially not okay to be so rude on HN. "Please don't post shallow dismissals"

The feedback provided wasn't helpful. You're absolutely correct in that shallow dismissals aren't kind, but you're wrong about who was shallow and who was not. OP didn't dismiss anyone, nor was their comment shallow. And they don't owe you or anyone else anything as far as "explanation" goes, and they can filter out whoever the hell they want. Click the link and look further, or don't.

Meanwhile, dr_ketyn's comment was both rude and not constructive in the slightest (here's a tip: starting feedback with "I hate this" isn't constructive or kind).

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