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Tell HN: I just updated my wife's Chrome, and uBlock is no longer supported

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Re: Tell HN: I just updated my wife's Chrome, and uBlock is no longer supported

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Post by 7bit »

vr46 wrote: post #211
QuiEgo wrote: post #206

I find this whole thing frustrating. Chrome is going full on user hostile. But, most people use it, so webpages "just work." It's also reasonably good on battery use and memory (as of late 2024 - it's come a long way). Safari is resource efficient but has very few browser extensions, and sometimes webpages just don't work correctly with it. Firefox has uBlock but has noticeably worse battery life, and does not honor…

Ad-blocking, etc, are too important to me personally to delegate to just an extension, hence I use NextDNS, but naturally it can’t manipulate the DOM to tidy up the page. Luckily I have long-preferred Firefox but I recognize that it’s not for everyone, or hardly anyone for that matter. Maybe a local pi-hole would do the job properly.

What do you mean by "just an extension"? It does the job very, very well. NextDNS is great, but especially with embedded ads you get a lot of 404s, which the extension can remove without any trace.

Re: Tell HN: I just updated my wife's Chrome, and uBlock is no longer supported

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Post by anticensor »

ozim wrote: post #275
SnowingXIV wrote: post #95

There has to be google engineers here. Does this just fall on deaf ears? I realize it’s a massive corp but imagine high ranking staff have a say and input. Maybe they don’t and Sundar isn’t worried about that. Or they do a simple cost analysis and short-term they see the benefit and are willing to to risk long term erosion that maybe be minimal. Weird returning to Firefox, but I did and there is nothing in chrome I m…

Maybe people could start actually using internet like it supposed to be used instead? Like we all should move to IPv6 and if someone wants to share videos with friends and family they could do without big corporations. If they want to serve their content for profit that should also be easy. But we got what we have it sucks but seems either pay up or don’t use what big corps provide.

In case of IPv6, ISPs'd go out of their way to block p2p by whitelisting allowed sender and receivers through DPI and routing limits.

Re: Tell HN: I just updated my wife's Chrome, and uBlock is no longer supported

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Post by jfil »

syvanen wrote: post #31
not_your_vase wrote: post #5

That definitely shows why Google isn't abusing its monopoly powers, and why it shouldn't be broken up.

It’s so weird to observe how Alphabet doesn’t seem to even try to keep its parts separated. Amazon at least tries keeps its companies separated from each other. AWS account teams doesn’t know what Amazon teams do and vice versa. While Google Cloud account team constantly gets involved with Workspaces, Ads and Google Play related stuff. If I remember right just few years ago Google was told to stop giving cheaper pric…

>It’s so weird to observe how Alphabet doesn’t seem to even try to keep its parts separated.

"Your Honour, it's simply impossible to break up our company into separate entities. Everything is just too entangled together! Can we get a fine instead?"

Re: Tell HN: I just updated my wife's Chrome, and uBlock is no longer supported

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Post by kumarsw »

6510 wrote: post #47
wkat4242 wrote: post #13

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What's so horrible about it? I don't like how they're pampering to the ad industry now but other than that I think they're pretty decent.

If I donate to your project I hope the money goes towards your project. If you spend it on beer or buy Jacuzzi I'm happy too. If you chose to spend it on other projects ill be excited to learn what they are. https://future.mozilla.org/projects/ Do you use any of that? Is there anything there I should be using? (honest question) It seems premature to donate to things I don't know. > Solo helps entrepreneurs expand the…

I don't know about their other expenses, but SEO/advertising is probably one of their better uses of money even if we don't like it. It's hard to gain market share against a browser that is pitched each time you do a Google search no matter how good the product is.

Re: Tell HN: I just updated my wife's Chrome, and uBlock is no longer supported

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Post by anticensor »

chii wrote: post #232
alihm wrote: post #196

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I'm not sure but a lot of people hypothesize that they will have to keep this feature for enterprise customers (not for UBO but other custom enterprise extensions that use manifest v2)

they can easily just blacklist ubo if they really wanted to remove it. And they can make it plausibly deniable - by blacklisting the extension id of anything that is in the chrome extension store that originally had manifestV2 (which will have some collateral damage, but obviously google doesn't care).

But that would also harm companies that actually intend to switch to a v3 based replacement but need a bit of time to complete the development.

Re: Tell HN: I just updated my wife's Chrome, and uBlock is no longer supported

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Post by vr46 »

7bit wrote: post #321
vr46 wrote: post #211

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ad-blocking, etc, are too important to me personally to delegate to just an extension, hence I use NextDNS, but naturally it can’t manipulate the DOM to tidy up the page. Luckily I have long-preferred Firefox but I recognize that it’s not for everyone, or hardly anyone for that matter. Maybe a local pi-hole would do the job properly.

What do you mean by "just an extension"? It does the job very, very well. NextDNS is great, but especially with embedded ads you get a lot of 404s, which the extension can remove without any trace.

You pulled three words completely out of context and misrepresented them. But to be clear, and put another way, (ad) filtering is too important to be left to an extension alone, especially as browsers can no longer be relied upon, and creating layers of filtering like defence in depth is better to avoid single points of failure.

Re: Tell HN: I just updated my wife's Chrome, and uBlock is no longer supported

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Post by bogdan »

shiroiushi wrote: post #230
mehlmao wrote: post #204

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Please show me a real-world page that performs worse on Chrome with no extensions than on Chrome with Unlock Origin.

That would be really easy (though it probably wouldn't be perceptible by humans, but you'd certainly see it if you look at actual CPU and memory usage): just look at some simple webpage that's only static HTML. uBO uses resources, so of course it's going to perform worse not having it there at all. And going through tens of thousands of filter rules isn't exactly a trivial task. However, at some point, the resources…

What about for any non-trivial example? Ultimately the user has a choice, if ublock's performance is a concern the user can disable it for a page or simply not use the extension. Alternatively chrome could work on implementing a good resource monitor for extensions etc. Maybe it's already possible to benchmark with dev tools. In any case, completely breaking it never makes sense.

Re: Tell HN: I just updated my wife's Chrome, and uBlock is no longer supported

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Post by Am4TIfIsER0ppos »

viraptor wrote: post #187
Am4TIfIsER0ppos wrote: post #152

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah if you want the same fate in about a year

Have you got any source for that?

The entire history of firefox since version 4 when they first copied chrome
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