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Bluesky is on the verge of overtaking Threads in all the ways that matter

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Re: Bluesky is on the verge of overtaking Threads in all the ways that matter

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Post by rty32 »

dylan604 wrote: post #16
janalsncm wrote: post #6

Is it all the ways that matter? The author mentions one way, DAU. Sure, that is important but I can think of other things that matter. The number of “creator” accounts matters just as much as the number of lurkers. From my experience Bluesky is way better and has respect for the user’s choice front and center. Lists of users to follow is a first-class citizen feature. Their algorithm is a chronological feed, not boos…

> Their algorithm is a chronological feed Why does a chronological feed get considered and algo? Do we consider SQL queries with WHERE and ORDER BY clauses an algo now?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algorithm

> In mathematics and computer science, an algorithm is a finite sequence of mathematically rigorous instructions, typically used to solve a class of specific problems or to perform a computation.

Looks good to me.

And did you just question "WHERE" and "ORDER BY" in SQL? I wouldn't do that. There are probably a ton of algorithms and optimizations done there. In my very naive understanding, quick sort is at least worth something.

Re: Bluesky is on the verge of overtaking Threads in all the ways that matter

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Post by virgildotcodes »

ipaddr wrote: post #272
virgildotcodes wrote: post #234

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Being a right wing trump supporter is an immutable characteristic like being black or gay?

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This seems like word salad, are you sure you’re continuing to argue all this in good faith?

You’re now saying that medical procedures can change your skin pigmentation, so race is no longer immutable? You genuinely hold this position?

Is everything mutable then? Since with the right surgical and drug interventions you can theoretically change anything about a person’s mind or body, which trivially includes their height.

Wow, truly this is deep.

If there are short/tall people who are being targeted for harassment/oppression then yes they too are in the right to wish that heightists/heightism didn’t exist and their harassers are in the wrong.

What are we even talking about here?

Re: Bluesky is on the verge of overtaking Threads in all the ways that matter

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Post by ipaddr »

virgildotcodes wrote: post #322
ipaddr wrote: post #272

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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This seems like word salad, are you sure you’re continuing to argue all this in good faith? You’re now saying that medical procedures can change your skin pigmentation, so race is no longer immutable? You genuinely hold this position? Is everything mutable then? Since with the right surgical and drug interventions you can theoretically change anything about a person’s mind or body, which trivially includes their heig…

Everything is mutable.

Re: Bluesky is on the verge of overtaking Threads in all the ways that matter

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Post by stiltzkin »

bertil wrote: post #26
pythonguython wrote: post #11

Low quality article aside, Threads also had a major spike in usage that quickly dropped off. I could be wrong, but I’m going to guess Bluesky will be the same. They don’t seem to offer anything new/different other than moderation, which I’m not convinced is enough to shift momentum from x to bluesky

The difference in moderation is night and day. Soon after Musk took over, I started having accounts wishing me violent deaths, repeatedly commenting on everything I said with graphic details (broken bones, poisoning, dragging my body over the pavement, etc.). That happened occasionally before, but they typically got banned. After the takeover, those were gone (and my account got blocked a couple of times for quoting…

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Post by elisharobinson »

they are afloat using VC math . I dont think modern web is a place for a social media company. the AD revenue / AWS bill does not make sense. Unless they become a data broker like Meta. Or become the microphone for a group or individual.

Re: Bluesky is on the verge of overtaking Threads in all the ways that matter

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Post by raxxorraxor »

cosmic_cheese wrote: post #317
raxxorraxor wrote: post #281

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Then you need to choose the safe space option. Under no circumstances should you opt to advertise removing content for others. Because your justification with "circular logic" could mean anything. This is the safe space option. That more free platforms employ spam protection is no excuse.

I think circular logic is fairly well defined (from Wikipedia, “Circular reasoning is a logical fallacy in which the reasoner begins with what they are trying to end with. Circular reasoning is not a formal logical fallacy, but a pragmatic defect in an argument whereby the premises are just as much in need of proof or evidence as the conclusion.”) That said, yes it’s not grounds for a ban. I wouldn’t block over it ei…

You will never have an agreement on it. Some see statements as axioms and others do not. Without premises, every form of reasoning can be regarded as circular.

You can have an authority on it that determines something as circular or not. But then you will inevitably end up with dogmatism.

Someone once said that circular reasoning works if the circle is large enough. Knowing the fallacy might help you detect faulty reasoning in your own thoughts. It doesn't allow for much more practical applications.

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Post by lone_onion »

vohk wrote: post #266
lone_onion wrote: post #154

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've just started using Bluesky. How does it compare to Reddit? There are dedicated subreddits for the conservatives and the liberals, and every subreddit has moderation rules. I use the right and left-focused subreddits to keep track of what's going on in different universes. However, I must mention that you won't find a reasonable discussion of left vs right ideologies on the main sub-reddits, as Reddit users are p…

Bluesky is a lot more like old, early algorithm twitter. Reddit is a cluster of independently operated communities that occasionally get signal blasted onto the main feed. The top moderator of a subreddit owns it and sets any standard they like. With Bluesky there are no defined communities outside of collective engagement with particular topics or hashtags or networks of follows. There is also a "Show me [more/less]…

Thanks. I'll invest some time in curating my feed. I'm not finding a ton of interesting starter-lists yet. I suppose it will get better over time.

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Post by CaptWillard »

epistasis wrote: post #235
anon291 wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I feel this is a downside only to a particular bunch. For most people, Twitter is doing better than ever. Community notes are amazing and innovative and should be adopted by every social media platform. X feels legitimately more fun than most other apps. Plus, at this point, I think a solid portion of people have been banned from social media apps. You can't exile your way towards whatever ideal society you want. The…

> For most people, Twitter is doing better than ever. Citation needed... Twitter went from a highly useful daily visit for getting news in my field to being a gigantic time suck to even try to avoid the politics and low-quality posts. >enforced community separation is so prevalent among those who are so reticent to build a border wall Ah, so you have a certain form of politics, and its beneficial. But Is that "most p…

When you use phrases like "partisan politics" and "extremist", I assume you're talking about objective truths and reasonable opinions that run counter to establishment/corporate/IC narratives.

I don't say this to debate you, but more to suggest my reaction is not unique among anyone who has been paying attention over these years.

I'd go so far as to say this line of rhetoric has gone past diminishing returns and into net negatives. Do with that what you will.

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Post by pbronez »

n1c wrote: post #295
paxys wrote: post #257

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Sure but if you are Jim you'd want to register jim.bsky.social, regardless of whether you intend to use the service or not.

There's an interesting dynamic because of the domains, I originally registered with `n1c.bsky.social` because like you say whether I intended to use the service or not it's nice to lock in the name. But then the next level is that it's actually more valuable or makes more sense for me to use it as `n1c.dev` as it's more closely tied to "me". I am kinda sad that now someone else who isn't me is n1c.bsky but so be it.

I think this is a meaningful security problem. Most users won't know that the domain name matters. They'll learn eventually, but lots of opportunity for mischief in the medium term.

If you have `n1c.bsky` and then migrate to `n1c.dev`, Bluesky should set `n1c.bsky` as a redirect to your destination domain by default. If you ever choose to terminate that redirect, `n1c.bsky` can go back in rotation... but it should have an immutable record that you registered the name originally, migrated to `n1c.dev`, maintained a redirect, and released the redirect on .

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