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Re: Why is it so hard to find a job now? Enter Ghost Jobs

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Post by georgeecollins »

hobs wrote: post #247
htrp wrote: post #238

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sorry I should have clarified. The ATS doesn't kick out your resume automatically, it just fails to include you in the 25 top candidates that get forwarded on to the hiring manager. It was very sad to see that my resume didn't make it for a job description that I wrote based on my resume.

Yep, they love a giant database filled with candidates they will never check out.

To me this is like: Why work for a big company? I worked for a big company once and did not like it. Kids out of college are always drawn to the big names, and they can look good on your resume.

My feeling is, if you want to work for a big company, work for a small one and make it big. I can say from experience that turns out really well.

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Post by dilyevsky »

gadders wrote: post #304
dilyevsky wrote: post #290

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Omg 80% of comments in this thread are so confidently wrong it’s insane. Fyi tp is actually doing everything by the book

Yes, it's been better explained now. I guess this is a case of "don't hate the player, hate the game." although the question remains why they filled the role with an H1B candidate in the first place if they could find locals that could do the job. That piece is clearly unethical and done only for wage suppression.

More like a case of “perhaps dont make judgements if your knowledge on the subject is aprox zero”. Again, same question as upthread - show me how prevailing wage is suppressing the market. The h1b could also been issued years ago like in 2021 for example

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Post by fggdt »

Iwan-Zotow wrote: post #119
cj wrote: post #86

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No. Many (especially smaller) companies don't want to hire people who need visa sponsorship because it requires a decent amount of overhead. The company needs to have an immigration lawyer to prepare and submit paperwork, which many smaller companies don't want to bother with. FWIW it's illegal to require "US citizenship" in a job description. You can, however, say "eligible to work in the US". (The former would be d…

> FWIW it's illegal to require "US citizenship" in a job description. nonsense tons of jobs advertisements required "US citizenship", because there is a security clearance attached

Without cause, you can't discriminate for citizenship.

Just like you can't discriminate by race, unless you're a film director you want a black actress to play Rosa Parks.

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Post by kyawzazaw »

doctorpangloss wrote: post #262
shmatt wrote: post #171

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The law says I can’t submit the I-140 application, which I follow the law and I don’t submit it. As a people manager it’s a heartbreaking conversation to have - to tell a report their dream of staying beyond their visa is gone The law says every line manager needs to do their own industry pulse check every time an i-140 is submitted. And this is the only legal way to pulse check (advertise a ghost job). It would be m…

I dislike this system as much as you do. Clearly the PERM cert is flawed. I suppose the system is working as intended, and I'm not sure what the drama is, although of course, from a human empathy point of view, I feel like the story is making you look like the worst actor in this scenario. That is unfair, but forgive me: you hold all the cards and occupy the most powerful position in the story, and you are framing it…

is this the situation of POSIWID

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Post by pixelatedindex »

crdrost wrote: post #245
pixelatedindex wrote: post #220

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So… the interviewee doesn’t get the job even though they knocked it out of the park, and the H1B doesn’t get their visa because the other interviewee did well. Basically nobody wins, and the H1B person is out of a job in 2-3 years?

Yes, this is precisely what the comment thread is saying. Shmatt’s original post should shock you with its conclusion because everyone loses including shmatt.

I’m not necessarily shocked but more appalled. I’ve always wondered this - in tech there’s very little reason to believe that you need to import talent. Learning is mostly democratized these days, and I find it hard pressed to believe that there isn’t a US Citizen for literally any tech company. But they cost more hence they try to do the whole H1B process… which then comes to bite them back.

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Post by thrwaway_hn_alt »

tartoran wrote: post #244
thrwaway_hn_alt wrote: post #158

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I am in this position. In the last few months I've submitted dozens of job applications for positions where, as articulated by another commenter upthread, the person writing the JD could have been writing it based on my resume. 15+ YOE, interesting work, promotions with progression of responsibility and impact, deep experience working with executives on the business side, side projects, volunteering experience, I spe…

Are you kind enough to share what kind of entrepreneurial work you're focusing on? Is it tech related in any way?

Yes and no.

Primarily working on growing a pressure washing business so I can be utterly done with (full-time, employee) tech work.

The other thing is an app / community for teaching meditation (a longtime passion of mine). I don't know if it will do well but if it nets me a half-dozen to a dozen students that I am instructing 1-1 via zoom for 20-30 minutes on a weekly basis when I FIRE here in the next five years I'll be happy.

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Post by TeaBrain »

bryanlarsen wrote: post #182
Iwan-Zotow wrote: post #119

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> FWIW it's illegal to require "US citizenship" in a job description. nonsense tons of jobs advertisements required "US citizenship", because there is a security clearance attached

Those companies are breaking the law. SpaceX was prosecuted for doing that. Now SpaceX says: To conform to U.S. Government export regulations, applicant must be a (i) U.S. citizen or national, (ii) U.S. lawful, permanent resident (aka green card holder), (iii) Refugee under 8 U.S.C. § 1157, or (iv) Asylee under 8 U.S.C. § 1158, or be eligible to obtain the required authorizations from the U.S. Department of State. Le…

Non-US citizens can't get a security clearance. Permanent residents can at most get a limited access authorization. The SpaceX case involved ITAR, not clearance.

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Post by kyawzazaw »

cj wrote: post #86
xvedejas wrote: post #65

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So when interviewing, perhaps I should skip more places that say citizenship required on the req, to avoid wasting my time?

No. Many (especially smaller) companies don't want to hire people who need visa sponsorship because it requires a decent amount of overhead. The company needs to have an immigration lawyer to prepare and submit paperwork, which many smaller companies don't want to bother with. FWIW it's illegal to require "US citizenship" in a job description. You can, however, say "eligible to work in the US". (The former would be d…

is it illegal to put that phrase? i don't think so. There are a lot of shops that includes that and they usually come with clearance needed.

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Post by kyawzazaw »

gadders wrote: post #304
dilyevsky wrote: post #290

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Omg 80% of comments in this thread are so confidently wrong it’s insane. Fyi tp is actually doing everything by the book

Yes, it's been better explained now. I guess this is a case of "don't hate the player, hate the game." although the question remains why they filled the role with an H1B candidate in the first place if they could find locals that could do the job. That piece is clearly unethical and done only for wage suppression.

usually, they find this local person later. But is it right to replace then? Wage suppression but usually H-1Bs and other work immigration visas are not lower paid at big tech co
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