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Re: I Don't Have Spotify

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Post by notyourwork »

mihular wrote: post #300
iamacyborg wrote: post #253

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My impression is that Tidal does a bad job of this in general. I have lots of artists I follow on there who have albums appearing on their page from identically named but different artists.

Don't get me started on that. How can a company which core business is content streaming be that lazy is beyond me. I often feedback them the errors, but even such feedback is difficult.

Sadly it’s an expensive scaling problem. Not trivial to solve at the scale streaming platforms operate at.

Re: I Don't Have Spotify

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Post by aaronax »

dylan604 wrote: post #297
etra0 wrote: post #282

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I recently made the switch as well and used spotify_to_tidal [1] which is the free and open-source alternative to what Tidal recommends and it worked pretty fine! it couldn't find some specific tracks and I bet it does a somewhat similar name match as the one Tidal recommends, but at least this one doesn't have a limitation by the number of tracks, in case it's useful to someone else. [1] https://github.com/spotify2t…

other than name match, what exactly do you expect them to attempt to do? use a shazam like process to analyze each potential match?

Use the Spotify artist ID[0] to find the Wikidata entry, and then grab the Tidal artist ID from the Wikidata entry to match the correct artist on Tidal. Even better if you use album IDs. (Brain explodes if you could use a song ID.)

Realistically, Wikidata may not have enough of this data populated, but it is nice to dream. And it seems plausible that MusicBrainz or similar might have enough data.

[0] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P1902

[1] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P4576

Edit: P1902 has 57000 uses and P4576 has 7000. So YMMV big time.

Re: I Don't Have Spotify

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Post by iamacyborg »

notyourwork wrote: post #321
mihular wrote: post #300

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Don't get me started on that. How can a company which core business is content streaming be that lazy is beyond me. I often feedback them the errors, but even such feedback is difficult.

Sadly it’s an expensive scaling problem. Not trivial to solve at the scale streaming platforms operate at.

Discogs seems to handle it just fine.

Re: I Don't Have Spotify

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Post by Outpox »

pivic wrote: post #127

I use this page to create a page with links to all kinds of music providers: https://odesli.co Works per artist, album, or song. Create a login to customise URLs. I'm just a user; I don't have a dog in this race.

I made a Discord bot which used songlinks API 5 years ago! Unfortunately not used much and not maintained anymore.

Re: I Don't Have Spotify

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Post by imp0cat »

pbiggar wrote: post #301
Kiro wrote: post #165

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Helsing is currently helping Ukraine. It's easy to say "military bad" when you're in the US, but for Daniel Ek it's about self-preservation. As a fellow Scandinavian, I fully support him investing in defense tech.

It has shareholders which benefit from killing people, and who benefit more from war proliferating. How do you think that turns out in the long run? How has it turned out for Ukraine? War companies sell war, and they sell it to evil people (see Israel's apartheid and genocide in Gaza). The privatization of war is bad for everybody.

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Re: I Don't Have Spotify

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Post by Minor49er »

NickC25 wrote: post #287
toastercat wrote: post #79

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The most sustainable way to "buy" music IMO, is to pirate it, and then buy merch from the artist as support. Or just buy off Bandcamp if its an option.

Or going to their live shows if they happen to come to a venue near you. Or by buying vinyl at a local record store. Sadly, those are dying out, but you can find one or two good ones in any major city. In electronic, hip-hop, and a lot of music that has a lot of computer-assisted production, a lot of producers will also release sample packs or VST presets that they sell directly on their websites. While often in smal…

Record stores are thriving pretty much everywhere across the US. The ones that have been closing are the ones that only hold old stock and don't curate their inventories

If you walk into a shop and all you see are old, worn out Barry Manilow and Bob Seger albums at $30+ a pop, the store isn't meant to last. Thankfully, the problem has been solving itself

Re: I Don't Have Spotify

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Post by jollyllama »

zxexz wrote: post #9
alpinisme wrote: post #7

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46 million active users or 46 million accounts created?

I’d believe either, though the latter feels tiny. Pandora is still better than any of the others listed for discovering new music, IMO. Spotify always seems too conservative with its suggestions, making it worse for discovering new music. Subjective, of course.

Pandora is also way more trainable. You can train that recommender with your thumbs up/down, and it's been like that for 15 years.

Re: I Don't Have Spotify

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Post by dylan604 »

aaronax wrote: post #322
dylan604 wrote: post #297

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other than name match, what exactly do you expect them to attempt to do? use a shazam like process to analyze each potential match?

Use the Spotify artist ID[0] to find the Wikidata entry, and then grab the Tidal artist ID from the Wikidata entry to match the correct artist on Tidal. Even better if you use album IDs. (Brain explodes if you could use a song ID.) Realistically, Wikidata may not have enough of this data populated, but it is nice to dream. And it seems plausible that MusicBrainz or similar might have enough data. [0] https://www.wiki…

Great, yet another attempt at solving this with yet another standard that not everyone will use. Why did you pick this attempt instead of something more common like Gracenote?

Re: I Don't Have Spotify

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Post by coder543 »

__MatrixMan__ wrote: post #310
mkhalil wrote: post #103

I know of a even more impressive website that will transfer playlists from Spotify (or 20 other platforms, including text files) to 20 other platforms or a text file. I will share the link, but don't hug it to death y'all. :) https://app.tunemymusic.com/transfer

I used this. It worked fine. It's a shame it's necessary though... I wish there was some kind of vendor-neutral import/export format rather than requiring a third party to solve the whole matrix of integrations.

The music industry needs to more widely use some kind of equivalent to the ISBN that the book industry uses. A simple "ISMN" list per playlist/library would be all that would be needed to move between services when both apps have the same songs.

One could also imagine a standardized ismn:// URL format that could open in your preferred music app, and this could work even without a streaming service if you already own that song in your personal music collection.

ISMN seems to exist: https://www.loc.gov/ismn/about.html

But, I've never actually seen it used for recordings; it seems to be focused solely on music notation. So, it would be nice to have some kind of recording-focused identifier for keeping track of specific performances between services.

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