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Re: All political ads running on Google in the US

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Post by dartos »

dartos wrote: post #204
neom wrote: post #200

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The images are all hosted on wix, so I guess they're all built with wix (I checked through them all to see if I could track the images back to anything, it's all stock photos) The weirdest thing I find about everything in there is this hobby lobby page: https://www.smalltowntruth.org/our-economy

Yknow maybe these are just actual us political groups… they have to exist, right?

Update to this, I’m convinced it’s not.

Idk if it’s Russian or whatever, but I’ve been convinced by other comments that it’s probably not a community run internet group.

Re: All political ads running on Google in the US

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Post by doctorpangloss »

arnaudsm wrote: post #275

In France we limit campaign budgets to 50M$ (population adjusted) and the state fully reimburses it. US presidential campaigns are 60x more expensive per capita! Have people in the US proposed such a cap to prevent corporations from buying elections, or is that too foreign of a concept ?

Most of the money spent in US political ads is to raise more money. It's hardly corporations buying elections.

Re: All political ads running on Google in the US

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Post by jeromegv »

YZF wrote: post #290
arnaudsm wrote: post #275

In France we limit campaign budgets to 50M$ (population adjusted) and the state fully reimburses it. US presidential campaigns are 60x more expensive per capita! Have people in the US proposed such a cap to prevent corporations from buying elections, or is that too foreign of a concept ?

I'm curious how France deals with external entities running influence campaigns on global platforms in this context? What prevents external entities (countries or corporations) from effectively buying elections in France?

Which global platforms? I can talk of Canada and every social media network that sell ads in Canada also has an office in the country and must follow laws.

Of course the organic reach can be manipulated, but the influence seems to be still somewhat limited.

Re: All political ads running on Google in the US

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Post by morkalork »

doctorpangloss wrote: post #322
arnaudsm wrote: post #275

In France we limit campaign budgets to 50M$ (population adjusted) and the state fully reimburses it. US presidential campaigns are 60x more expensive per capita! Have people in the US proposed such a cap to prevent corporations from buying elections, or is that too foreign of a concept ?

Most of the money spent in US political ads is to raise more money. It's hardly corporations buying elections.

It's an election industrial complex, a self-licking ice cream cone! It's amazing how the election season gets longer and longer.

Re: All political ads running on Google in the US

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Post by vitus »

mef wrote: post #234

interesting that the company that has the most viewed ads for 2024[1] ("FORCE VECTOR COMMUNICATIONS") has a total of 3 matches when you search for them[2] [1] https://adstransparency.google.com/political?region=US&topic... [2] https://www.google.com/search?q=%22force+vector+communicatio...

One of those does point to the underlying organization, "Righters Group" which seems to be a rightwing fundraising group.

Specifically, if you perform a `whois` on email-comply.com, you can find

    Registrant Organization: Force Vector Communications, LLC
and

    Tech Email: accounting@rightersgroup.com

Re: All political ads running on Google in the US

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Post by lesuorac »

arnaudsm wrote: post #275

In France we limit campaign budgets to 50M$ (population adjusted) and the state fully reimburses it. US presidential campaigns are 60x more expensive per capita! Have people in the US proposed such a cap to prevent corporations from buying elections, or is that too foreign of a concept ?

What happens in France if I personally fund a bunch of billboards to advertise for a politician?

While, the campaigns do receive tons of a money there's also a lot of non-campaign expenditure in the way of things called PACs/Super-PACs which basically produce the same ads that you could see from a candidate minus the "and I'm X and I approve this message.".

Re: All political ads running on Google in the US

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Post by s1artibartfast »

asynchronous wrote: post #316
s1artibartfast wrote: post #298

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I hate this phrasing. Corporations aren't people. The finding was that people dont lose their rights when working together via a corporation. If you can buy a political sign and your friend can buy a sign, then the two of you can buy a sign together.

The issue is then the theoretical contract of the two of you together takes no real repercussion for breaking the law, whereas separately if you committed crimes independently then you could be put in jail. We don’t have capital punishment for corporations, and we should.

How does that argue against people still having rights.

Corporate death penalty exists, it is called bankruptcy. It is called criminal liability and people are put in jail.

You just seem to disagree with how harsh (or not) the penalties are. However, that doesn't say anything about taking away rights.

Re: All political ads running on Google in the US

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Post by strix_varius »

JoshTriplett wrote: post #306
strix_varius wrote: post #246

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I guess it's a testament to my daily driver (Brave browser) that I had to Google "what is temu."

Genuinely curious: do you actually include "what is" in your searches, or was that paraphrasing?

Yes, when looking for the definition of an unknown term

Re: All political ads running on Google in the US

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Post by uoaei »

crazygringo wrote: post #283
uoaei wrote: post #253

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you interacted with any political organizations in the last 10 years offline? If/when you interact with them online, do they claim provenance through some actual recognized body or just some vagaries around how they want to depict their alignments? If this was such a big deal, where is the hubbub about pretty much every email in my inbox? NGPVan (for instance, on the Dem side) doesn't require much except the bar…

I don't understand anything you're talking about. Nobody likes e-mail spam from anonymous groups. NGPVan has an about page that lists who runs it with photos, they have an office and a phone number, they have a Wikipedia page. But they don't legitimize anyone else, as you seem to be suggesting. Anonymous interference like this hasn't been a problem for a long time, contrary to your assertion -- it's very specific to…

NGPVan doesn't email you with influence campaigns -- their customers do. You are completely mistaken to believe their legal team hasn't insulated themselves from the activities of those who pay rent on their infrastructure.

Re: All political ads running on Google in the US

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Post by paulvnickerson »

arnaudsm wrote: post #275

In France we limit campaign budgets to 50M$ (population adjusted) and the state fully reimburses it. US presidential campaigns are 60x more expensive per capita! Have people in the US proposed such a cap to prevent corporations from buying elections, or is that too foreign of a concept ?

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