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Internet Archive breached again through stolen access tokens

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Post by sersi »

trompetenaccoun wrote: post #5

We need archives built on decentralized storage. Don't get me wrong, I really like and support the work Internet Archive is doing, but preserving history is too important to entrust it solely to singular entities, which means singular points of failure.

If there was a way, I could dedicate 10 TB to IA and have the system automatically use those 10TB to store whatever is best I'd love that.

Right now there are torrents and I do keep any torrents I download from IA in my client for years but torrents means I only get to contribute by sharing the things I downloaded in the past.

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Post by stavros »

TZubiri wrote: post #316
stavros wrote: post #239

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I designed a system where you could say "donate this spare 2 TB of my disk space to the Internet Archive" and the IA would push 2 TB of data to you. This system also has the property that it can be reconstructed if the IA (or whatever provider) goes away. Unfortunately, when I talked to a few archival teams (including the IA) about whether they'd be interested in using it, I either got no response or a negative one.

Hosting something at a volunteer's drive, without any guarantees, is pretty useless. They can cease hosting, or have disk damage, and you lose data

You're essentially saying that having an extra copy of data is equally as reliable as not having an extra copy of data. I would encourage you to think about this a bit more.

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Post by account42 »

diggan wrote: post #286
rbanffy wrote: post #264

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Torrents are immutable in principle, which is good for preserving things. A new version of a set of files should be a new torrent.

> Torrents are immutable in principle In practice, that's mostly how they're being used. But the protocol does support mutation. The BEP describing the behavior even has archive.org as an example... > The intention is to allow publishers to serve content that might change over time in a more decentralized fashion. Consumers interested in the publisher's content only need to know their public key + optional salt. For…

Specs are nice but does any client actually implement this?

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Post by [deleted] »

arresin wrote: post #199

> "It's dispiriting to see that even after being made aware of the breach weeks ago, IA has still not done the due diligence of rotating many of the API keys that were exposed in their gitlab secrets," reads an email from the threat actor. With everything that’s going on, it’s highly suspicious that this is happening right after they upset some very rich rent seekers.

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Post by billy99k »

userbinator wrote: post #215
boplicity wrote: post #195

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FYI: "Money" is imaginary property. Not sure you want to call people supporting "imaginary property" dogmatic. It's what our society is built on.

Money is not imaginary. You can touch and interact with it.

It's paper and ink that we've given a perceived value to.

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Post by rolandog »

jdiff wrote: post #21
trompetenaccoun wrote: post #5

We need archives built on decentralized storage. Don't get me wrong, I really like and support the work Internet Archive is doing, but preserving history is too important to entrust it solely to singular entities, which means singular points of failure.

This seems to get brought at least once in the comments for every one of these articles that pops up. The IA has tried distributing their stores, but nowhere near enough people actually put their storage where their mouths are.

Perhaps a naïve question, but hasn't this problem been solved by the FreeNet Project (now HyphaNet) [0]? (the re-write — current FreeNet — was previously called Locutus, IIRC [1]).

Side note: As an outsider, and someone who hasn't tried either version of FreeNet in more than almost 2 decades, was this kind of a schism like the Python 2 vs. Python 3 kerfuffle? Is there more to it?

[0]: https://www.hyphanet.org/

[1]: https://freenet.org/

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Post by [deleted] »

TZubiri wrote: post #64
et-al wrote: post #59

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He is. But at the cost of the greater good. Most of us care mainly about the Wayback Machine and archiving webpages; not borrowing books still under copyright and fighting publishers.

Speak for yourself, the internet archive successfully increased its scope and made creative contributions to case law (although it lost at the appeals court)

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