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Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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Post by throw0101d » Sun, Jul 21, 2024, 9:40 PM UTC

readthenotes1 wrote: post #29

strangelove026 wrote: post #8

Dannnnnng. I think it's definitely for the best (probably never should've come to this, reminds me of RBG). And that said I really, really liked his presidency, but, he is undeniably really old.

The problem isn't just his age, it's his decrepitude, both physical and mental. I know people in their 90s who are able to speak clearly at any hour of the day...

> The problem isn't just his age, it's his decrepitude, both physical and mental.

"When Biden stumbles over words, we question his state of mind; when Trump acts like a deranged street preacher, it’s … well, Tuesday. If Biden had suggested setting up migrants in a fight club,[1] he’d be out of the race already; Trump does it, and the country (as well as many in the media) shrugs. "

* Tom Nichols, https://archive.ph/XcMbP / https://www.theatlantic.com/newsletters/archive/2024/07/the-...

> “Did anyone ever hear of Dana White?” Trump asked during his speech at the Faith and Freedom Coalition’s “Road to Majority” conference in Washington. “… I said, ‘Dana, I have an idea. Why don’t you set up a migrant league of fighters and have your regular league of fighters, and then you have the champion of your league — these are the greatest fighters in the world — fight the champion of the migrants.’ I think the migrant guy might win; that’s how tough they are. He didn’t like that idea too much.”

* https://archive.ph/cQ4KA / https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/06/22/trump-chr...

And it's not like Trump is that much younger than Biden.

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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Post by DesiLurker » Sun, Jul 21, 2024, 9:42 PM UTC

coffeecloud wrote: post #66

egberts1 wrote: post #34

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Political parties aren’t democratic institutions. They are essentially private organizations who can operate however they want. It’s only been the last 50 years or so that either party has used primaries as anything more than a straw poll

Well the one that calls itself Democratic party should, you'd expect, at-least make an attempt to be.

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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Post by enraged_camel » Sun, Jul 21, 2024, 9:42 PM UTC

energy123 wrote: post #222

purple_ferret wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unfortunately his domestic achievements have been somewhat mediocre. His signature achievements essentially were one time cash payments to people. I really do think his major failure was not pushing for a lasting achievement like implementing federal parental leave. He had the chance, but opted for a 1 year extension of child tax credits. And of course the US has an illegal immigration problem. European right on the…

"His signature achievements essentially were one time cash payments to people." Look at the $300bn climate funding in the Inflation Reduction Act and the impact on bringing chip manufacturing onshore with the Chips Act. All this with a nearly divided congress. Easily the most effective US president of my lifetime.

The IRA has nothing to do with Joe Biden. It passed because Joe Manchin decided at the last minute that he hated what China is doing with trying to monopolize stuff like solar panels and batteries.

There's a reason people jokingly refer to him as President Manchin.

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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Post by nirav72 » Sun, Jul 21, 2024, 9:43 PM UTC

lilsoso wrote: post #319

gumby wrote: post #32

One of the most effective presidents since Johnson or Truman. But he did campaign on a single term. Let’s hope the Dem’s circular firing squad puts down its guns so they can quickly concentrate on winning the election with someone … probably Harris is the simplest answer.

Not according to Marc Andreessen & Ben Horowitz [1], Chamath Palihapitiya & David Sacks [2], possibly Zuckerberg [3], and others. And of course Elon, Thiel. Many such cases. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_sNclEgQZQ [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blqIZGXWUpU [3] https://www.youtube.com/shorts/XgWFwVRGcf4

SEC and other watchdog agencies will most likely be gutted to give rise to Crypto.

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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Post by pan69 » Sun, Jul 21, 2024, 9:43 PM UTC

dbcurtis wrote: post #306

siliconc0w wrote: post #271

Endorses Kamala so probably no 'mini-primary' or other challengers which is a bit of a shame. Kamala was pretty uninspiring in the primary and hasn't seemed to get a lot done as vice president while trump has gathering momentum and, maybe more importantly, money. The 'king making' party apparatus that pushed Biden despite the health issues has a lot to answer for.

The reality is that the campaign donations accumulated by the Biden/Harris ticket are only available to Harris. Anybody else is funding-challenged even more than Harris at this point. From the standpoint of campaign finance laws and the practical realities of fund-raising, it was Harris all along.

The Biden/Harris campaign can not donate their donations?

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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Post by adsharma » Sun, Jul 21, 2024, 9:44 PM UTC

theossuary wrote: post #313

adsharma wrote: post #239

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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There was a thread about the Trump assassination attempt, it was unflagged: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40957564

Ah, Thank you. I didn't check back after noticing that it was flagged. Same as this one.

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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Post by karaterobot » Sun, Jul 21, 2024, 9:44 PM UTC

bushbaba wrote: post #291

gumby wrote: post #32

One of the most effective presidents since Johnson or Truman. But he did campaign on a single term. Let’s hope the Dem’s circular firing squad puts down its guns so they can quickly concentrate on winning the election with someone … probably Harris is the simplest answer.

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It's not obvious how he could have prevented Russia from invading Ukraine, or stopped Hamas from invading Israel. Not everything comes back to the U.S.

The biggest EV manufacturers in the U.S. are Tesla and Ford, as far as I can tell. No Chinese manufacturer I'm aware of has made significant inroads.

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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Post by RaftPeople » Sun, Jul 21, 2024, 9:45 PM UTC

HarHarVeryFunny wrote: post #318

Not going to happen, but I wonder how a mixed party ticket would do. Kamala (or whoever) + Mitt Romney as VP ? Has it ever been done? Would it work to attract the center/swing vote, or more likely to be a negative?

That's a pretty interesting thought.

I read something a few years ago that said moderates/non-affiliated make up the majority of voters with only a smaller percentage on left and right tied to the parties (somewhere maybe in 15% to 20% range on each side, can't remember exactly).

So it seems like a good mix of moderate could possibly win, especially when the other candidate is so polarizing.

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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Post by dbcurtis » Sun, Jul 21, 2024, 9:46 PM UTC

srid wrote: post #131

techostritch wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This feels like evidence of interesting new phenomenon, I get why 99% of politics topics should be removed, but if we post one when presidents get elected, it seems like something as impactful as president dropping out should count too.

Trump assassination attempt -- equally interesting new phenomenon -- also got flagged.

New Phenomenon? Meh.... I lived through 1968

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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Post by jarsin » Sun, Jul 21, 2024, 9:46 PM UTC

thefaux wrote: post #297

Two points that people are making that I feel necessary to refute because they come across as being offered from a place of bad faith or ignorance: 1) the suggestion that Biden should resign from the presidency because he is standing down from running. Biden is not saying that he is incapable of running. He and his team just understand how to read polls and don't want their party to lose the election which seemed alm…

On point 1 I checked the polls and they look no different than Bidens. Recent articles say the same thing. So that can't be why they chose her.

"A flurry of polls conducted in the wake of the June 27 presidential debate showed Harris performing roughly the same as Biden against Trump (who has been leading the president by a slim margin for months), and more recent polls after the attempted assassination of Trump show similar trends."