Mean time, they got all your personal files to train their AI on, didn't they?
Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission
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Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission
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They had a motive. Not justification.
Having external backups set up correctly is pretty good for users, and I think that would justify trying to make it more of a default. This seems pretty obvious to me, but I expect if Microsoft did surveys they would find people complaining about how terrible losing a document or disk was for them in the past. I don’t know what ‘explicitly chosen not to use it’ means, but I think you or I would probably consider such…
This is the giveaway that you aren't saying anything in good faith.
> but I think you or I would probably consider such an action to be more deliberate than the average user doing that
Nice appeal to our superiority or whatever you want to call it, but this is irrelevant. The "average user" is no less deserving of the choice and naturally it's up to them to make the right one for them, not Microsoft.
Your whole argument is just diminishing the value of peoples consent.
Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission
#323Earlier quoted context omitted.
> use anecdotal evidence while denying others the opportunity ... They said "It's not possible to install a local account any more." . I'm sure you can understand why my own memories of just recently doing the apparently impossible thing will hold more weight -- to me at least -- than a comment saying the thing I just did is impossible. That might not be super convincing to an outside reader, but for me the alternati…
> but for me the alternative is to conclude that I'm having a multi-day hallucination. Or that you didn't consider all relevant factors, like if you used the latest image like the other use did, as they asked?
Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission
#324Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sadly I think the enthusiasm with which the market embraced this behaviour in mobile, console and IoT makes it legally difficult for Microsoft to be punished. How can you penalise Microsoft for pushing OneDrive by default but not penalise Apple for iCloud? Should multiple backup providers be suggested at startup for economic fairness? Or should backups be disabled by default (potentially annoying consumers of mobile…
IMO While Apple are pushing iCloud harder than they really should be allowed to, but it's nowhere near as bad as what Microsoft are doing. With Apple there's a simple opt-out in the setup wizard, and if you opt-out you stay opted-out (and are only prompted to opt-in once a year with the major OS update).
Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission
#325Earlier quoted context omitted.
> but for me the alternative is to conclude that I'm having a multi-day hallucination. Or that you didn't consider all relevant factors, like if you used the latest image like the other use did, as they asked?
Or it was 3 days ago, so it was the image available on Microsoft 3 days ago?
That aside, the point is there are a ton of possibilities why it worked for you and not another user. Just because it worked for you and the other people reporting it did (and dare I point out some confirmation bias for you dismissing the other people saying it didn't) doesn't mean it still works universally or in newer/older or even different regional versions of an image.
Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission
#326Earlier quoted context omitted.
IMO While Apple are pushing iCloud harder than they really should be allowed to, but it's nowhere near as bad as what Microsoft are doing. With Apple there's a simple opt-out in the setup wizard, and if you opt-out you stay opted-out (and are only prompted to opt-in once a year with the major OS update).
On a new device iCloud is not opt-out . Yesterday I installed a new iPad and had to go to iCloud settings and turn off syncing for some 30 services. Quite annoying.
I wish I could use parts of iCloud without all the crap that entails. But at least I can choose not to use it all.
Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission
#327Earlier quoted context omitted.
Or it was 3 days ago, so it was the image available on Microsoft 3 days ago?
I mean, you're answering a question here, so it doesn't really make sense to start your reply with 'Or'. I get you're trying to be snappy back, but it doesn't really work here. That aside, the point is there are a ton of possibilities why it worked for you and not another user. Just because it worked for you and the other people reporting it did (and dare I point out some confirmation bias for you dismissing the othe…
You can take the win here, I probably used an obscure regional version from 1998 or something. To quote the OP: It's not possible to install a local account any more
Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission
#328Earlier quoted context omitted.
ITT: people complain about 'CLI dickery' in Windows but arguing for Linux. *shrug_emoji*
...yes? Because on Windows, the CLI is used to circumvent the highly smelly patterns that Microsoft puts in your way to force you to act in a way that is financially interesting for them, even though you've paid for their shitty OS already On Linux, the CLI (in a similar scenario) is used to... install the software. And you can probably use a GUI package manager depending on your distro. Do you really not see the dif…
And on Linux you use CLI to investigate why the hell a modern distro (Rocky 9) hangs up if you run anything more complex than a ping. Or just hangs up if you don't touch it at all, just a bit later.
ANd it requires 9 hard resets (thankfully there WAS an option to do them, it wasn't some desktop class machine an ocean away) and digging and digging what is exactly happening, why it happens and what magik incantations needs to be CLI'ed on this exact version of the distro, because other versions are reporting what everything is correct... yet the machine still hangs.
Source: just spent 4 hours in CLI dickery for that great, stable and unkillable operating system.
But of course, if MS OS - it's 'CLI dickery' but if Linux - then the only time you touch CLI is to 'dnf install magic'
And yes, the real difference is what for the most part you don't need 'CLI dickery' on Windows, so when someone argues for the Linux-like OSes as an a better alternative to Windows it doesn't sounds good.
Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission
#329Earlier quoted context omitted.
I mean, you're answering a question here, so it doesn't really make sense to start your reply with 'Or'. I get you're trying to be snappy back, but it doesn't really work here. That aside, the point is there are a ton of possibilities why it worked for you and not another user. Just because it worked for you and the other people reporting it did (and dare I point out some confirmation bias for you dismissing the othe…
I feel like a crazy person, trying to convince strangers on the internet that I really did manage to install Windows with a local account. Why? I'm not even sure. This isn't how I imagined my future when I was a kid. You can take the win here, I probably used an obscure regional version from 1998 or something. To quote the OP: It's not possible to install a local account any more
Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission
#330Earlier quoted context omitted.
I feel like a crazy person, trying to convince strangers on the internet that I really did manage to install Windows with a local account. Why? I'm not even sure. This isn't how I imagined my future when I was a kid. You can take the win here, I probably used an obscure regional version from 1998 or something. To quote the OP: It's not possible to install a local account any more
I think myself and the other dude are trying to help you see that theres no contest to be winning here