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Re: Fast Crimes at Lambda School

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Post by dang » Thu, Jun 20, 2024, 5:34 PM UTC

Aeolun wrote: post #304

dang wrote: post #272

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Thanks! I'm proud of my moderation browser extension with keyboard shortcuts! https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que... - which is written in Arc by the way: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20179860 . On a good day, that's the kind of stuff I get to work on. But there are vastly more important factors. One is that there are other moderators. They just don't post publicly. By far the most im…

Got to love that it appears all based on the title given on HN, because the original post under “Don’t mention AI again” stayed up and got lots of comments. While technically being against the ‘rule’ against editorializing titles, I guess in this case it was to make it less sensational xD

You're right of course! but I need to point out that the rule asks for titles to be changed when they're misleading or clickbait:

"Please use the original title, unless it is misleading or linkbait; don't editorialize." - https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

It's always interesting to to me that although the rule cuts both ways, people only tend to remember one. Maybe that 'unless' needs to be phrased more clearly?

Re: Fast Crimes at Lambda School

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Post by 7thpower » Thu, Jun 20, 2024, 6:17 PM UTC

plorkyeran wrote: post #260

7thpower wrote: post #166

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Counter point, I have worked with a company we’ll call “C” and they have been able to build a pipeline of folks who have been incredibly effective (>50). That being said the program is a bit more than ~3 months and the students go all in, they’re not doing it part time. The students come from different backgrounds, some have not graduated highschool, and they come hungry for better opportunities. We’ve tried this wit…

I think expecting it to scale is really the main problem. There's clearly more than zero people for whom a coding bootcamp is a great fit, but it shouldn't come as a great surprise that maybe that pool of people isn't huge.

100%

The reality for the program we use is also that these individuals have a very strong support network of people who can help them while they’re not working for X months. And that is with a stipend.

In addition to drive and aptitude, there is a very large situational aspect to this approach that further refines the funnel.

Re: Fast Crimes at Lambda School

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Post by efreak » Thu, Jun 20, 2024, 6:19 PM UTC

Scaevolus wrote: post #300

dang wrote: post #299

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Usually when people say that, they're putting more on other persons ("they fucked up") than they would on themselves ("but, circumstances"). If you're not doing that, I respect your position. But that's a hard karmic row to hoe. Personally I'd rather bail people out because I might want to get bailed out myself in the future.

Why bother with performing edits and customized redactions and renames when it's easier to simply delete the comments or accounts?

The worst thing about browsing old Reddit threads is when half the discussion has simply disappeared because the user hates Reddit and edited/deleted all their comments. There's an awful lot of information lost there, and sometimes it's extremely difficult to find elsewhere. The same goes for the occasional deleted accounts and posts I've seen on other forums around the web by people the forum administrator have deemed "toxic" and purged posts instead of simply banning the user (I only have a single vague memory of a forum other than Reddit where a user voluntarily removed all of their own posts, likely due to the difficulty of doing so).

Re: Fast Crimes at Lambda School

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Post by zck » Thu, Jun 20, 2024, 6:21 PM UTC

dang wrote: post #306

zck wrote: post #289

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> Thanks! I'm proud of my moderation browser extension with keyboard shortcuts! https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que ... - which is written in Arc by the way: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20179860 . Really cool! How different is Arc running HN or your extension from Arc3.1, the last-released version?

That's a good question because Arc the language is distinct from HN the application (and both were released all those years ago). At the language level, we've changed things but not super much. It's maybe 30% different. At the application level there have been many changes and it's more like 80% different.

Very neat! It would be cool to see, I'm sure. Anarki hadn't changed too much, but there are some things for sure. Any especially cool features added or changed? Must be cool to work in a language you control.

Re: Fast Crimes at Lambda School

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Post by efreak » Thu, Jun 20, 2024, 6:26 PM UTC

dang wrote: post #266

monero-xmr wrote: post #228

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Strange you can change the username for a specific comment vs. all comments. It makes it so that a comment is attributed to someone else. Very odd.

In case it's of interest, here's the standard language from emails I send people: We try not to delete posts that got replies, because doing so would be unfair to the other commenters in the thread. What I've done so far is reassign it to a random user ID, so it's as if you'd used a throwaway account to post it and there's no link to your main account. Does that work?

As I just mentioned in a previous comment, I'd like to note how much I appreciate that you keep the contents of posts with replies. It's not only unfair to other commenters, it can also be unfair to readers. There's nothing worse than seeing only one side of a discussion, where the possibly-useful information was purged or edited into personal attacks on the other user. I much prefer SO-style attributed edits (though for a discussion forum this should be limited to mods, not arbitrary users), but time-limited editing with manual thought out exceptions as implemented here is a close second, far preferable to Reddit and other forums that allow arbitrary editing forever and only show a date (if that).

Re: Fast Crimes at Lambda School

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Post by cko » Thu, Jun 20, 2024, 7:30 PM UTC

imzadi wrote: post #23

I've posted about my Lambda experience in another thread. I started Lambda School in 2019. I was in one of their first part-time evening cohorts. The original program length was 9 months. I went into the program with a lot of prior programming experience as a hobbyist and MUD programmer, but no professional experience. I had been trying to get a programming job for over a decade without success. I hoped it would help…

You passed a Triplebyte interview? I heard they ask FAANG level leetcode or harder. That plus going through two boot amps plus SWE job experience looks like high market value to me.

Re: Fast Crimes at Lambda School

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Post by imzadi » Thu, Jun 20, 2024, 8:10 PM UTC

cko wrote: post #326

imzadi wrote: post #23

I've posted about my Lambda experience in another thread. I started Lambda School in 2019. I was in one of their first part-time evening cohorts. The original program length was 9 months. I went into the program with a lot of prior programming experience as a hobbyist and MUD programmer, but no professional experience. I had been trying to get a programming job for over a decade without success. I hoped it would help…

You passed a Triplebyte interview? I heard they ask FAANG level leetcode or harder. That plus going through two boot amps plus SWE job experience looks like high market value to me.

When I got laid off (October 2022), there were a ton of tech layoffs, including big cuts at FAANGs. It was a lot of competition at the time. I did get offered a job doing QA but the position was closed and my offer rescinded a week before I was supposed to start. I didn't have a lot of options, so took this helpdesk job. Now, I am just not getting calls at all, not even phone screens.

Re: Fast Crimes at Lambda School

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Post by GOD_Over_Djinn » Thu, Jun 20, 2024, 9:04 PM UTC

imzadi wrote: post #23

I've posted about my Lambda experience in another thread. I started Lambda School in 2019. I was in one of their first part-time evening cohorts. The original program length was 9 months. I went into the program with a lot of prior programming experience as a hobbyist and MUD programmer, but no professional experience. I had been trying to get a programming job for over a decade without success. I hoped it would help…

Wait, lambda demanded a portion of the income from your job that you had for several years prior to enrolling in lambda…? Am I understanding this correctly?

Re: Fast Crimes at Lambda School

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Post by DistractionRect » Thu, Jun 20, 2024, 9:04 PM UTC

networked wrote: post #309

DistractionRect wrote: post #245

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In light of the flaming, I'd like to underscore why it's entirely reasonable to redact the author of the comment in question: the author outted themselves as knowingly and egregiously violating a ToS for another site, and using//promoting services which are at best unethical, but probably illegal (residential proxies//large scale proxy services are usually built off the backs of botnets//malware). This isn't, IMO, fa…

I think this is correct. My intent was to point out it looked like 'austenallred realized he'd admitted to doing wrong. I knew HN could redact a user's data at their request and wrote my comment accordingly, but I didn't make it explicit. Unfortunately, my comment became a magnet for accusations against HN staff and 'dang personally. The lesson seems to be to anticipate moderators being accused of conspiracy and mali…

I understood your intent, my comment was aimed at the child comments that collected under yours. I just felt like it needed to be explicitly said that this isn't some conspiracy/cover up. The content is still there, and who said it isn't really consequential. It doesn't help or hurt YC, it maybe shielded Austen from getting booted from Twitter, but beyond that who cares? People getting out their pitchforks because HN mods did something inconsequential, four years ago, for a person who's now labeled $bad today seems silly. More so since it's well documented that they'll do it for anyone on request. I just don't see the what justifies their outrage.

I agree partly with the lesson but more broadly I think it is that any hint of impartiality//conflict of interest for governing/regulatory bodies will be construed in a negative light. Where I disagree is that you could have saved the mods the trouble. I don't think there was any way you could have worded your original comment, or I mine, or Dang his, that would entirely quell the accusations that followed. There's one person in the thread that continued to insinuate that this isn't a policy or it's a new policy; even though Dang showed his comments about this policy going back almost a decade.

Re: Fast Crimes at Lambda School

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Post by imzadi » Thu, Jun 20, 2024, 9:14 PM UTC

GOD_Over_Djinn wrote: post #328

imzadi wrote: post #23

I've posted about my Lambda experience in another thread. I started Lambda School in 2019. I was in one of their first part-time evening cohorts. The original program length was 9 months. I went into the program with a lot of prior programming experience as a hobbyist and MUD programmer, but no professional experience. I had been trying to get a programming job for over a decade without success. I hoped it would help…

Wait, lambda demanded a portion of the income from your job that you had for several years prior to enrolling in lambda…? Am I understanding this correctly?

Yes, exactly