This looks fantastic! Congratulations, really amazing work.
It's unfortunate it's twice the price of others in the field like remarkable, it's a little bit beyond what I'd buy for "that seems cool, I might use it from time to time"
Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet
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#322Earlier quoted context omitted.
For starters, it doesn't come with the whole "light show", it's black and white. "Minimalist" types often suggest turning your smartphone into B&W mode (usually an accessibility setting), precisely to reduce temptation to watch videos, social media, and such.
Elsewhere in this thread I see comments that mention "low distraction", "calmer", and something about iPhones frying kids' brains. This all looks like snobbery to me, based on the association of monochrome paper with novels and writing and intellectual pursuits. In the 18th century we were scared that novels would fry the brains of young women, but times have changed and now it's iPhones that are sinful, and monochro…
By way of an experiment - set your phone screen to black & white (in iOS, settings -> accessibility -> display -> color filters -> [on] -> grayscale, on android, settings -> accessibility -> color & motion -> color correction -> [on] -> grayscale), and leave it that way for a day of normal use. Then, turn it off, and note how you react to the change.
Folks aren't calling it calmer because they're trying to look erudite, they're calling it calmer because modern applications put a lot of work into capturing your attention, and color is one of the tools they use (quite aggressively) to do so. Disabling color on the device isn't some way to look snobbish, it's a way to reduce the number of ways the device and applications are attempting to grab your attention.
Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet
#323Hi yall, founder of Daylight here. Happy to answer any questions you have. Long time lurker, so this is pretty cool to finally take part :) I made this because I wanted the eye-strain free and minimalist qualities of my kindle/Eink applied to so much more of what I do on a computer. Lack of speed and ghosting felt like it made traditional Eink impossible to do most computing tasks. So we focused on making the most Pa…
boochiboo12, Please reach out to the team at goodereader.com and see if a review can be arranged. they cover e-ink and several e-ink alternatives, including other vendors in the RLCD space.
FYI: goodereader has a bad reputation in the eink world. Their reviews are fair but their shop is borderline scam.
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#324Looks nice! I think I'd only get it if I could use it as a monitor though. Displaying more than grayscale colors would be a plus too. Still glad to see it though.
we aim to build a monitor, but hardware companies arent very hot for VCs, so cash flow from selling the tablet is the primary way we are going to fund building a monitor, phone, and laptop
> and laptop
Maybe start with a screen module for a Framework laptop: https://github.com/FrameworkComputer/Framework-Laptop-13/tre..., before/instead of trying to engineer a laptop from scratch...
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#325Earlier quoted context omitted.
> 2x Arm Cortex-A76 up to 2.2GHz > 6x Arm Cortex-A55 up to 2.0GHz > LPDDR4X > Arm Mali-G57 MC2 Not great, not terrible. I'd say lower middle class phone, roughly equivalent to the Snapdragon 680. The real question is longterm software and security support. I'd bet good money this will se one android update and security patches late or never at best.
They've said the bootloader is unlocked so it should never be totally obsolete.
comments here promise an unlocking tool in the future.
This is very different from shipping unlocked. Until the tool is available, I would not go anywhere near this.
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#326Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why did you say "less addicting"?
One common psychological trick addictive social media uses is high saturation color, as it causes our monkey brains to enjoy it slightly more. This is monotone and I’d assume that’s a relevant feature point
I often use ctrl-win-c shortcut for black and white mode in Windows, it's great to rest the eyes.
Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet
#327Hi yall, founder of Daylight here. Happy to answer any questions you have. Long time lurker, so this is pretty cool to finally take part :) I made this because I wanted the eye-strain free and minimalist qualities of my kindle/Eink applied to so much more of what I do on a computer. Lack of speed and ghosting felt like it made traditional Eink impossible to do most computing tasks. So we focused on making the most Pa…
This sounds great, I would love to buy one!
Is there a static specs page? The site seems to have been hugged to near-death but even if not it would be great to know the basics not in a video form: size, weight, OS (e.g., can I run my favorite FB2 reader on it), interfaces, etc.
I am totally willing to lean forward and buy one, but from the current state of the site I cannot even figure out if the screen is 4" or 9" or something in between.
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#328Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet
#329Earlier quoted context omitted.
> We developed our own custom epaper display tech we call LivePaper. We focused on solving the tradeoffs RLCDs traditionally have - around reflectance %, metallic-look / not Paperlike enough, viewing angle, white state, rainbow mura, parallax, resolution, size, lack of quality backlight, etc. Would you license this to others at a more affordable rate than e-ink? Lenovo has some e-ink 2-in-1 "thinkbook" laptops and mi…
I bet people would pay good money for a Framework display module that's usable eInk. (Assuming it can use the same display connector.) https://frame.work/products/display-kit?v=FRANGX0001 https://guides.frame.work/Guide/Display+Replacement+Guide/86...
Oh my god I would buy this in a heartbeat (specifically the RLCD display - I've used enough kindle-style e-ink displays to find them basically unusable for anything I'm intending to actually interact with).
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#330Earlier quoted context omitted.
For starters, it doesn't come with the whole "light show", it's black and white. "Minimalist" types often suggest turning your smartphone into B&W mode (usually an accessibility setting), precisely to reduce temptation to watch videos, social media, and such.
Elsewhere in this thread I see comments that mention "low distraction", "calmer", and something about iPhones frying kids' brains. This all looks like snobbery to me, based on the association of monochrome paper with novels and writing and intellectual pursuits. In the 18th century we were scared that novels would fry the brains of young women, but times have changed and now it's iPhones that are sinful, and monochro…
>This all looks like snobbery to me, based on the association of monochrome paper with novels and writing and intellectual pursuits
You say it like it is a bad thing. It is associated with novels and writing and intellectual pursuits, because it's less suitable for video/graphics focused social media, videos, and games.
>but times have changed and now it's iPhones that are sinful, and monochrome displays are virtuous, apparently.
False analogy aside, we already know TVs and then smartphones are addictive in a way older media never were. We already have studies about that, and we already have statistics about the dire consequences on teenagers and adults in many metrics.
So, your argument is a little like saying:
"In the 1940s and 50s we were scared that weed would fry the brains of young kids, but times have changed and now it's meth that is dangerous, and weed is ok, apparently".
Well, meth is hella dangerous, and that's a fact, even if they overblew the danger of weed in the 1940s.