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Re: Ilya Sutskever to leave OpenAI

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I have to say I'm a bit surprised "gardening leave" is not more of a norm in tech like it is in investment banking or finance.

Big Tech wasn't what I expected, it seems there's almost a forced perspective that individuals don't make a difference (they do)

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Re: Ilya Sutskever to leave OpenAI

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Ilya knows how ChatGPT works. Any company that hires him will be able to catch up with ChatGPT.

I think what is probably very stressful about this space is virtually everyone knows how ChatGPT works. It is not a theoretical leap. It's actually fairly predictable how this shakes out, and OpenAI is pretty vulnerable.

an LLM is a curiosity without user data, anyone with a big silo of data can put out something years behind frontier and still instantly see huge usage. No one wants to go to AI, they want AI to come to them, unless OpenAI can stake a claim in a super novel way they're the Dropbox.

It's not like someone is going to use insider OpenAI knowledge to build an LLM so advanced you switch email, phone, or ERP providers

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Nvidia should snatch him.

They sell the shovels and the buckets, they're not digging for gold.

They do participate pretty heavily in ML research from what I've seen. To continue your metaphor, they try to invent as many gold digging techniques as possible which exclusively work with their own shovels and buckets.

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> Catching up right now is not a matter of tech innovation, but raw energy and compute. I don't really understand that. ChatGPT is not all that impressive as an actual tool for many things. It doesn't really seem to matter to me what energy and compute is going into it. Will it make it actually work?

If you consider the best frontier LLM in the world "not that impressive," I'm curious to know what you think is

I think the point is not "chatGPT isn't good", it's that no one is beating physics, you can rough out the coefficients on a napkin, and they're playing chicken with who wants to set more piles of money on fire.

It _is_ the best frontier LLM in the world, and virtually the entire global population of people who care about that are in this thread

Re: Ilya Sutskever to leave OpenAI

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If that is the case, why hasn't Google caught up yet?

Is Google significantly behind? I would say from a technological perspective, they're very closely trailing or even surpassing OpenAI in many ways; they've built a formidable ChatGPT competitor in Gemini—not to mention they have a huge home court advantage with billions of people on Search, Chrome, Android, and G Suite. If you zoom out a bit, it's not really a fair fight between the two. More likely, Apple and Micros…

Technical chops has never been Google's problem. Gemini for all the hype Google has thrown at it, has continued the recurring trend of G not knowing how to win with their product launches.

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If that is the case, why hasn't Google caught up yet?

Because their weakness is in focus and execution, not resources. If they focused all of their energy on, simply, a frontier AI model, and not trying to shoehorn a half-complete model into all of their products, there is no doubt they would be ahead. But this is the innovator's dilemma, and why it is that startups are the disruptors. Big companies move slow and lack focus. Small companies move fast and can only focus…

and politics, although they seem to have woken up (no pun intended) and started de-politicizing.

Re: Ilya Sutskever to leave OpenAI

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I'll say it again - the one who was irreplaceable at OpenAI is Ilya, not Sam.

"Was irreplaceable" != "is still irreplaceable". OpenAI as a company has outgrown any individual engineer or scientist, no matter how smart.

There's no evidence to that.

Re: Ilya Sutskever to leave OpenAI

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Altman's tweet ( https://x.com/sama/status/1790518031640347056?s=46 ) makes it seem as if he wanted to stay, and Ilya disagreed and "chose" to depart. Very interesting framing.

Since it's all in proper casing I'm going to assume he wrote it with chatgpt.

Ironically built by Ilya
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