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Apple's risky bet on CarPlay

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Re: Apple's risky bet on CarPlay

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> Thanks to a deep integration with the software stack of the vehicle, CarPlay 2 can control most infotainment functions. It can therefore take over the entire infotainment display, the instrument cluster, and any passenger displays.

The instrument cluster?

Any other safety-critical functions that the iPhone isn't isolated from?

Re: Apple's risky bet on CarPlay

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The author is talking about that they only use Google Maps, Spotify and some podcast app and that those are not available in the car. Interestingly for me only the Google Maps thing is a problem, actually Google Maps doesn't work here in South Korea so I have to use Kakao Maps or T-Map. Anyway music and especially podcast work wonderfully over bluetooth.

Re: Apple's risky bet on CarPlay

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I use CarPlay but it is very clunky - I need to plug in the device etc. I've been working on using and old iPhone and keep it connected in the car all the time. I plan on using wifi hotspot for connectivity and since the device can sign-in using my ApplID, it can have access to my calendar or Messages as needed. Sharing the routing address from another Apple device can be done easily from Maps. This seems like a miss…

That’s specific to your car’s head unit. When I get into my vehicle, the iPhone in my pocket connects to its head unit via Bluetooth with zero actions from me. Seriously, I get into the car and the CarPlay display comes on showing my phone’s apps. I don’t have to plug it in, tap a button, or do anything else at all.

Re: Apple's risky bet on CarPlay

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FWIW Teslas infotainment works better than CarPlay

If that were true, Tesla would have no problem offering CarPlay and Android Auto compatibility. After all, it’s just a protocol to let your phone use the display (or part of it) as a second monitor.

Lol. Just a protocol that you need to get a blessing from Apple and pay them dearly.

Re: Apple's risky bet on CarPlay

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> Thanks to a deep integration with the software stack of the vehicle, CarPlay 2 can control most infotainment functions. It can therefore take over the entire infotainment display, the instrument cluster, and any passenger displays. The instrument cluster? Any other safety-critical functions that the iPhone isn't isolated from?

Normally the instrument cluster runs a different software stack, but can overlay some graphics from the infotainment in certain areas to show navigation or what music is playing right now.

Re: Apple's risky bet on CarPlay

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Apparently this isn't true. If you have a car where the 2nd screen behind the steering wheel also shows CarPlay-related stuff, you have CarPlay 2 (or so I've been told). It's just not as invasive and all-or-nothing as it was billed to be.

No. There are three things, which makes it confusing. 1: “original” CarPlay. Shows up on your head unit 2: enhanced “original” CarPlay. Some cars can show the map or turn by turn instructions behind the steering wheel on a screen there 3: “new” CarPlay. This is where CarPlay fully takes over every screen. Nothing has been released, I think only one very expensive model has even said they’re going it. Today e dry one…

I'd say trusting phone vendors whether to show me an oil pressure warning is kinda stupid, but that's just me.

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My theory is that Tesla want to strongly encourage people to use the in-built navigation that works very hard to ensure you don't run out of charge.

Or because they want to charge a subscription for "premium data" which nobody would buy if there was CarPlay.

You don't need premium data for online maps. Premium data is for sat maps, music and live camera views. Also at $10 per month it's actually quite cheap.

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That's a statement about audio playing only though. To first approximation the core job of a car infotainment product is map and navigation display. Everything else is noise.

Have you not used maps via CarPlay?

Yes. It's awful.

Plus CarPlay it's pretty unstable and requires cable on some cars.

Re: Apple's risky bet on CarPlay

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No. There are three things, which makes it confusing. 1: “original” CarPlay. Shows up on your head unit 2: enhanced “original” CarPlay. Some cars can show the map or turn by turn instructions behind the steering wheel on a screen there 3: “new” CarPlay. This is where CarPlay fully takes over every screen. Nothing has been released, I think only one very expensive model has even said they’re going it. Today e dry one…

Any idea when #2 was released? I have a 2019 Honda. Android Auto can use the instrument panel as a second screen but CarPlay cannot. I miss seeing the next-turn distance countdown right in front of me.

I have a 2023 rav4 prime and it shows apple maps directions in the instrument cluster and HUD, maybe that counts?

Re: Apple's risky bet on CarPlay

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Depends on lots of variables, overall not something I want to rely on just to play music. Like I got a Chevy rental and CarPlay took forever to pair then proceeded to play distorted music for some reason, while the FM radio worked fine. Worked better on another car but still took forever to pair. I installed a new stereo for my old car today, intentionally avoided CarPlay and got a simple non-touchscreen JVC. $60, 15…

The quality of a rental Chevy head unit is not a good indicator of the CarPlay user experience in a decent car.

It shouldn't matter, it's just music. And one car that failed the test was a $50K Suburban. If it's this flaky, maybe some other car works fine but one day it stops.
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