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Post by rchaud »

babypuncher wrote: post #278
ec109685 wrote: post #195

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You’re discounting the huge number of android devices that use it as a base OS. E.g. Amazon and Peloton use android without Google services for consumer devices.

These are devices built with a specific use case in mind that need an operating system that is easy to develop for. Non-Google versions of Android have struggled to make much headway in markets like smartphones. Even Amazon's own phone flopped pretty hard.

The thing about Android is that a device doesn't have to make headway by selling 100 million units plus to continue being adapted to many different types of devices.

In any case, the Play store can be sideloaded on every Android device even if it isn't officially supported.

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Post by creativenolo »

idle_zealot wrote: post #320
creativenolo wrote: post #264

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Typically “mixed reality” is used to mean mixing your vision with virtual content. Whereas, “augmented reality” has typically meant displaying a live video feed on a single screen. They are two quite different experiences and use cases. Once both are common it would make sense to call both augmented reality but I haven’t heard any better terms for describing the difference to people yet.

I think usage is exactly the opposite of what you described.

I haven’t yet seen a phone Augmented Reality app described as Mixed Reality. I have seen HoloLens, Meta Quest 3 and Apple Vision Pro described as Mixed Reality and Augmented Reality.

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Post by TulliusCicero »

MyFirstSass wrote: post #287
TulliusCicero wrote: post #186

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VR headsets can be fun for some games, but the hardware and software still have a lot of maturing to do, it's not like smartphones where it feels very developed and there's not much more room for obvious growth/improvement.

Yesterday i was close to buying a Pico 4 (Cheaper non meta Quest 3 equivalent), then i realised there has been zero fully triple a games since my friend blew me away with a Half Life Alyx demo 4 years ago. I find it incredible there's still only 1 actual "serious" VR game - lots of people then recommended Skyrim VR, a game from 2011. Is VR gaming in an absolute standstill?

It's not at all, no. There's plenty of compelling games, there just aren't any AAA games (not ones built for VR only anyway) because the market simply isn't big enough to justify the incredible production costs.

If you're dead set on only AAA games then yeah, it's not a useful purchase, but that doesn't mean it's "standing still".

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Post by freedomben »

prab97 wrote: post #199
kotaKat wrote: post #176

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And I'm still forced to have some form or variant of a Facebook-touched account, even if they want to change the front company behind it. I don't want to sign in to use a headset, period.

But you do sign in to use an Android phone, or iPhone. Although, I agree with the point that someone would never want to sign in with their Facebook account there, with FB account holding so much personal information about them! For gaming, somebody would rather prefer to use an alias like dungeonmaster669 instead of their verified actual identity.

On Android at least, you don't have to sign in. You obviously "miss out" on some "features" that way, but it is usable.

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Post by HDThoreaun »

babypuncher wrote: post #305
mnahkies wrote: post #178

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Before the iPhone we had palm pilots, blackberries, etc. I prefer to think of it as consumer VR simply hasn't had its iPhone moment yet

Even as a kid before the iPhone came out, it wasn't hard to see the appeal of a smartphone. People loved their Blackberries and Palm Treos. Having internet access wherever you go was incredibly appealing even before the hardware, software, and infrastructure were ready to make that mass marketable. VR makes a ton of sense for video games, but I just don't see how it could enhance the rest of my day-to-day life. I don…

I see tons of appeal for headsets in day-to-day life. Maybe Im unique but I spend a solid hour a day lying in bed reading or on my tablet, I think this experience of using a computing device while lying down could be vastly improved with the right headset and thats an hour every day straight away.

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Post by _joel »

RobotToaster wrote: post #324

That's a bad name collision, "Horizon" is the name of the OS on the Nintendo 3ds and switch.

And also for people following the UK news, the name of the Fujitsu/Post Office software that led to a not insignificant number of sub-postmasters being falsely convited in the largest miscarriages of British justice ever (maybe anywhere).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Post_Office_scandal

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Post by paxys »

EVyesnoyesnoyes wrote: post #14

I would really love to see proper educational content from Meta but i bet this is not were the 'next money thing' is. Imagine a catalog of proper real life skills you can actually train reasonable good: - cooking - soldering - welding - Tons of woodworking things - ... You could also go to a lot of makers of tools and offer them to digitalize their products for them so someone can actually exercise with a cheap to su…

Why would you want to see it "from Meta"? There's no way a single company, that isn't even in the education business, can product that kind of content and keep it up to date. Meta's play is the right one – make an OS and software platform and let people build whatever they want on it.
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