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Re: Boeing whistleblower found dead in US

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Post by sylware »

yifanl wrote: post #61

I'm just going to take this story at face value, there's an infinite number of alternate explanations that I'd be powerless to talk about. I've had my own (thankfully brief) moments where I've thought about suicide just from the perception that my coworkers, my bosses, the entire world, just does not care about doing the right thing. Mr Barnett worked for the same company for over three decades and physically watched…

I endure the feature creeps of computer languages with their compiler implementations (ISO and gcc extensions are the worse). Sneaky and vicious planned obsolescence scheme on a 5-10 years cycle.

It is very accute too. Just a bunch of scammers with an army of brain washed dudes or worse. We have a name for them: Big Tech.

Everybody has limits.

But in this very case, this is extremely unfortunate timing... or even more fishy than expected. Whatever, something is off in Boeing. Some screws need tightening ...

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Post by bilekas »

aydyn wrote: post #280
bilekas wrote: post #261

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> Occam's razor From my point of view Occam's razor here wouldn't be assassination. It's would be as mentioned above, mental health and overwhelmed by the sheer impact of your whistleblowing. Maybe there is no Occam's razor here if there's no obvious answer.

suicide due to mental health makes zero sense. sorry you just have to introduce way too many elements. The real explanation is simple.

> suicide due to mental health makes zero sense.

I hope this is just bad phrasing and will assume you mean just for this whistleblowers case. We don't know though.

Assassination AFTER the whistleblower information has been released and is now out in the open really doesn't make any sense to me though. As conspiracies go, its not even humorous.

Re: Boeing whistleblower found dead in US

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Post by tomohawk »

Whether it was actually a suicide or murder, this (suing a large organization) is not the kind of thing an individual should take on alone. We are fragile. We can hurt ourselves, and others can hurt us. Without a companion keeping him company and supporting him, either path to harm is too easy.

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Post by lukan »

asystole wrote: post #228
aurareturn wrote: post #205

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I can't imagine that he would go through all this, and then decide it's not worth it anymore at the very end of his testimony.

People under extreme mental stress tend not to act rationally.

Yeah, some things you can only imagine, if you experience them.

Still, people murdered for way less.

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Post by willis936 »

parineum wrote: post #211
justatdotin wrote: post #195

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> this doesn't make the problem go away what if they have bigger problems in the pipeline. It could estimated to be worth exacerbating this issue if it discourages the next.

What if they don't?

All that means is that the murder wouldn't be rational. Do you expect rationality from the executives that gutted one of America's best companies?

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Post by misnome »

lutoma wrote: post #308
dang wrote: post #151

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It's not a technical article. It's a lurid media topic* about a suspicious-looking alleged suicide with zero information for a substantive discussion, and tons of fuel for sinister speculation. That's not what HN is supposed to be for. However, we can give this one a pass because the ongoing Boeing saga is of interest and there's clearly a community appetite to discuss this development. Edit: even though the thread i…

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I'm non-American and found the usage fine. The bad usage is normally the context.

In this case, the context is contrasting with the normal sources of HN. It's literally a mainstream source.

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Post by diordiderot »

dang wrote: post #167
anigbrowl wrote: post #156

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Flatly untrue. It's a soberly worded recitation of the available facts with multiple caveas; the frenzy of speculation stems from Boeing's increasingly tattered corporate reputation, not the story. This was written to far higher standards than (for example) a story from the Daily Mail or New York Post; I'm astonished that you would characterize this way.

Sorry—I'm tired and expressed that carelessly, and you're quite right. I wasn't talking about the article and am glad that it is as good as you say. In fact I merged the other thread into this one precisely because the BBC article was better. What I mean is that the story itself, i.e. the significant new information, is a lurid apparent suicide, and there aren't any details about that , other than it happened. Not be…

Good guy dang. Thanks for all your hard work making this place great.

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Post by waffleiron »

eastbound wrote: post #198
qwertyuiop_ wrote: post #191

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It wouldn't be as direct as if the order came from the boardroom. There are thousands of "stakeholders" bound to lose their gravy train, lobbyists, suppliers, "consultants", military industrial complex. It's easy to for one of these to send a "contractor" to stalk, hold the person's arm and "shoot himself" dead. I am not an investigator but this is very very suspicious. He delivered 2 days of testimony and is about t…

So what you’re saying is Boeing has an army of 2000 lobbyists are all ready to kill for financial gain?

Boeing, a defense contractor, relies on killing people for financial gain.

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Post by eunos »

jj999 wrote: post #27
Qem wrote: post #14

He should have done like Snowden. Got out of the country before exposing material. Shouldn't a witness in a high profile case like him been granted some sort of police escort by the court? Guy paid the ultimate price for freedom of speech and informing the public. Wonder if someone will sustain there is no threat to freedom of speech because the lawsuit involved the company where he was employed, not the government.…

Name a juridiction where he would have been both i)taken in and ii)secure.

(unironically) HK
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