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Re: Kagi and Wolfram

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Post by disqard »

phil294 wrote: post #314
themoonisachees wrote: post #183

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Imo ddg's mission is incompatible with today's web. The mission is simply to serve you regular Google/bing search, but without tracking and they do that well, but it is missing the absolute trash fire that those results are currently (yes, they have moved somewhat from that but clearly they are still heavily reliant on Google ranking). Kagi on the other hand, I spend 5$ a month on search that doesn't track me AND giv…

> but it is missing the absolute trash fire that those results are currently I don't understand your answer. Isn't that a good thing? Why are you missing trash on DDG?

IIUC, "it is missing" was used in the sense "it is missing the forest for the trees" -- as in, the Big Picture is that search results are turning to garbage steadily, but if you shrink your perspective, hey at least you're not being tracked ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Re: Kagi and Wolfram

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Post by lmm »

Zambyte wrote: post #297
lmm wrote: post #180

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It doesn't work on mobile though.

What do you mean?

Even if you set your preferences to prefer old.reddit.com style, the reddit website will only respect that when accessing from a desktop device. On a mobile device you always get the "new" reddit.

Re: Kagi and Wolfram

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Post by disqard »

metabagel wrote: post #218
karaterobot wrote: post #193

Kagi has tried a few different AI solutions, and now this integration with a different search engine. I think what I want is just a redoubled focus on improving search results (not quick answers) while maintaining or improving confidentiality. If they announce that my monthly payments are going up, and I suspect it's because they're paying for partnerships with services I don't view as core to the product value that…

I think that in 5 years nobody will want to use a search engine which doesn’t have AI capabilities. The stuff which turns you off may be critical to Kagi’s survival.

A prescient and pragmatic reply. I too, felt a bit miffed that they were jumping onto this hype bandwagon.

However, as an early user, I've continued to support them and I think you've articulated really well why they're doing what they are doing -- and what made me not drop my subscription when I saw them integrate "GenAI" into Kagi.

Re: Kagi and Wolfram

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Post by migrane3 »

noneoftheabove wrote: post #231
BeetleB wrote: post #166

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Complete with how he played a major role in the early history of search engines.

Hahahaha also sooo true. Little Sergei Brin interned at his startup. And how Apple Steve job and him had the many discussions about search engine before search engines were a thing. Wolfram practically invented search. U will see on the follow up blog post

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Re: Kagi and Wolfram

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Post by migrane3 »

mminer237 wrote: post #25
ec109685 wrote: post #18

How do new search engines like Perplexity and Kagi avoid getting rate limited or hitting captchas as they build and maintain their indexes? Sites have to make exceptions for Google, but likely wouldn’t care enough to allow other search engines in.

I believe Kagi just pays to use Google's and Microsoft's indexes.

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Re: Kagi and Wolfram

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Post by akaralar »

illiac786 wrote: post #311
ac29 wrote: post #201

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!gm is one of my most frequently used bangs on kagi

Why do you use bangs and not keywords in the address bar? It's so much faster, no need to go to kagi first... I have 10-20 keywords set up in Firefox for example. It works in chrome too. But maybe I'm missing some use case for kagi bangs...

The real killer for me has been the fact that the keywords or bangs aren’t tied to a single platform/browser. I set them up once and they are available on my iPhone & iPad & 4 different browsers on the mac. Add this the fact that if you set Kagi as the search engine, you can perform all of these from the address bar already.

Re: Kagi and Wolfram

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Post by trollerator23 »

caycep wrote: post #162
nullstyle wrote: post #93

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Mathematica is a commercial product: https://www.wolfram.com/mathematica/pricing/

Who uses Mathematica, in this age of python/Julia etc? The Grad student world seems to be captured by Matlab

I'm gonna get a lot of hate for this but... people who work on scientific computing or engineering and value their time choose Matlab and Mathematica over Python. Source: I've used Matlab and Python extensively, Mathematica a little (never Julia so I don't know)

I gave Python a good shot but gave up. A beautiful language but what a waste of time trying to get any simulation going.

Re: Kagi and Wolfram

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Post by pyinstallwoes »

dewbrite wrote: post #28

> To ensure result quality, we automatically downrank pages with advertising and tracking, which are often associated with low-quality or machine-generated content. That is one of the most compelling things I've ever heard about a search engine. How well does kagi work for niche "reddit queries" like "best waterproof midi synthesizers reddit"?

Wait, why do you need a waterproof midi synthesizer?

Re: Kagi and Wolfram

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Post by pyinstallwoes »

speed_spread wrote: post #292
dade_ wrote: post #196

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Where do you use a MIDI synthesizer that it needs to be waterproof? In the rain, the ocean, the bathtub? Inquiring minds want to know!

Beach raves. Pool parties. Orgies. Anywhere there's booze/fluids next to electronics.

Your username makes more sense now.

Re: Kagi and Wolfram

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Post by Zambyte »

lmm wrote: post #322
Zambyte wrote: post #297

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you mean?

Even if you set your preferences to prefer old.reddit.com style, the reddit website will only respect that when accessing from a desktop device. On a mobile device you always get the "new" reddit.

Ohh okay. I skipped a comment in the chain and thought you meant either the redirect on Kagi doesn't work on mobile, or the old.reddit.com site doesn't work on mobile.
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