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Re: Ente: Open-Source, E2E Encrypted, Google Photos Alternative

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Post by account42 »

Jnr wrote: post #171
js4ever wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can confirm there is a breaking change literally every single week, check here: https://github.com/immich-app/immich/discussions/7405#discus... It's a great software but I would not recommend it at all because of this and the answer from the authors about the issue

I have 600GB of data with 70K+ photos and videos in Immich. I have been using it for some time now, and none of the "breaking changes" broke anything because they have excellent release notes. Worst case - you can restore your postgre backup (which you make, right?) and try again, reading release notes. I make backups and I read release notes, luckily didn't need to do a restore yet.

> Worst case - you can restore your postgre backup (which you make, right?) and try again, reading release notes. I make backups and I read release notes, luckily didn't need to do a restore yet.

That sounds pretty horrible tbh. Yeah you should make backups and read release note but if the software regularly needs some manual action then that becomes tiring pretty quickly when you host enough different services. Backups and manual intervention for upgrades should be for exceptional cases.

Re: Ente: Open-Source, E2E Encrypted, Google Photos Alternative

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Post by internetter »

While I want to be optimistic about competitors to big tech, I always fear that if your pitch is "it's not big tech" that won't be enough. This is 3 times more expensive than similar offerings from google and apple. Obviously I understand the economics of scale. Obviously I understand there might be other factors allowing big tech to sell this for cheaper. All I'm saying is I worry this app will not survive as I don't think most consumers believe "isn't big tech" is worth 3x more.

Re: Ente: Open-Source, E2E Encrypted, Google Photos Alternative

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Post by nolok »

If anyone is looking for something similar but "at home", on your own docker or vm, Photoprism and Immich are pretty nice, though both have their issues if using "for free" : Photoprism is awesome and does not require you to change your setup/paths/organisation but it has no non admin accounts (need a 2€/month subscription for that, which is quite cheap still), while Immich is not "stable" as-in it changes and break things regularly between updates (well, it's gotten better lately, but still).

Re: Ente: Open-Source, E2E Encrypted, Google Photos Alternative

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Post by NoNotTheDuo »

internetter wrote: post #323

While I want to be optimistic about competitors to big tech, I always fear that if your pitch is "it's not big tech" that won't be enough. This is 3 times more expensive than similar offerings from google and apple. Obviously I understand the economics of scale. Obviously I understand there might be other factors allowing big tech to sell this for cheaper. All I'm saying is I worry this app will not survive as I don'…

The article and the blog post is about open-sourcing their server software though... which means you will be able to run the same software at home for free, instead of paying them to host it for you.

Re: Ente: Open-Source, E2E Encrypted, Google Photos Alternative

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Post by internetter »

NoNotTheDuo wrote: post #325
internetter wrote: post #323

While I want to be optimistic about competitors to big tech, I always fear that if your pitch is "it's not big tech" that won't be enough. This is 3 times more expensive than similar offerings from google and apple. Obviously I understand the economics of scale. Obviously I understand there might be other factors allowing big tech to sell this for cheaper. All I'm saying is I worry this app will not survive as I don'…

The article and the blog post is about open-sourcing their server software though... which means you will be able to run the same software at home for free, instead of paying them to host it for you.

"You can host it yourself" won't help their business either

Re: Ente: Open-Source, E2E Encrypted, Google Photos Alternative

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Post by ranger_danger »

latchkey wrote: post #319
vishnumohandas wrote: post #316

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a masterclass on customer support, thank you.

That's interesting. I see this as a masterclass on how to fail to convert a 19 year member of a website, back to a paying customer. Yes, I used to pay for Flickr Pro. I stopped when I found that it wasn't providing me value other than "we will delete your private photos" if you don't pay up. By the way, I did at one point look in the UX to see if there was a way to be able to view just my private photos so that I cou…

You can't seriously expect them (or anyone) to always grandfather in old free accounts after starting to charge money, can you? Bandwidth and storage is not unlimited.

The fact that he even engaged with you at all, and to the degree he did, was incredibly kind and he showed much restraint, kudos to him for that.

But you continued to double-down on your opinions and think you're more important and worthy of his time than everyone else. Why is that?

Re: Ente: Open-Source, E2E Encrypted, Google Photos Alternative

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Post by latchkey »

ranger_danger wrote: post #328
latchkey wrote: post #319

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's interesting. I see this as a masterclass on how to fail to convert a 19 year member of a website, back to a paying customer. Yes, I used to pay for Flickr Pro. I stopped when I found that it wasn't providing me value other than "we will delete your private photos" if you don't pay up. By the way, I did at one point look in the UX to see if there was a way to be able to view just my private photos so that I cou…

You can't seriously expect them (or anyone) to always grandfather in old free accounts after starting to charge money, can you? Bandwidth and storage is not unlimited. The fact that he even engaged with you at all, and to the degree he did, was incredibly kind and he showed much restraint, kudos to him for that. But you continued to double-down on your opinions and think you're more important and worthy of his time t…

> You can't seriously expect them (or anyone) to always grandfather in old free accounts after starting to charge money, can you? Bandwidth and storage is not unlimited.

Never once asked for that. Although, let me remind you that he does in fact make money off driving traffic to my public images (and everyone else's as well). If he wants to give away that service for free, it is his business choice to do that.

> The fact that he even engaged with you at all, and to the degree he did, was incredibly kind and he showed much restraint, kudos to him for that.

Agreed. Kudos to him!

> But you continued to double-down on your opinions and think you're more important and worthy of his time than everyone else. Why is that?

I guess it is my fault for sticking to my opinions. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Re: Ente: Open-Source, E2E Encrypted, Google Photos Alternative

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Post by ZohoMailSupport »

vishnumohandas wrote: post #94
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