2 years from now : "Sunsetting Gemini"
Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced
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Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced
#322Well let’s hope these hn comments are representative of the wider experience. Doesn’t sound beta ready let alone paying launch
Oops. That sentence is missing a not. I don’t actively wish anything bad upon Google
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Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced
#324My initial impression is that Gemini Advanced has more difficulty understanding prompts and following directions than GPT-4. It surprisingly often changes meaning when rewriting things. However, it can be more creative and specific, while GPT-4 often relies on common knowledge and lacks depth. I've tested prompts where GPT-4 failed and Gemini failed too. GPT-4 generates the first token faster but Gemini Advanced completes subsequent text more quickly.
Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced
#325Earlier quoted context omitted.
Google Work Paying users always get the short end of the stick.
Workspace users always get features after free consumer accounts so that organization admins have time to evaluate them, update training materials, etc. This is a feature, not a bug. And of course there are lots of features that Workspace accounts get, that free accounts don't get at all. Like the timeline view in Sheets.
I get making new features an opt-in thing for workspace, but from what I can tell I can't even enable it for my workspace domain. I'm not able to enable it for myself to evaluate it and update training materials.
Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced
#326This is an impressive product, well done Google. There is a PM in there somewhere who knows what they are doing, kudos to you. Prediction: they get to 6-7 digit number of paying customers, decide it is peanuts for them (~$20M/mo) and instead decide to push the free version with ads with full force as the future of search.
> There is a PM in there somewhere who knows what they are doing, kudos to you. Do they? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39302781
I'd venture to guess that is not a PM that gets to decide how to name a Google product.
Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced
#327In the 20 minutes of experimentation, I'm really impressed with the quality of Bard Advanced (Gemini Ultra). The results are as good as GPT-4, and in some cases is better. So far: pros: - better at translation (tried Chinese and Japanese idioms to English) - better at incorporating search results in its answer vs gpt-4 bing cons: - slightly worse at coding - censorship is more annoying (have to ask multiple times abo…
Also as time goes by, it'll get smoothly integrated into docs/gmail/maps/calendar/youtube/search/colab/sheets/android/assistant
So Gemini could by your one-stop AI shop for everything. Only Microsoft can match it (but Microsoft doesn't have a popular maps, youtube, mail, smartphone OS service).
Apple is another strong player (but they don't have productivity tools like docs, sheets or youtube).
It really is Google's to lose this AI race from now on.
Going to chatGPT and copying and pasting results will become painful (not to mention it's painful bing integration). Also at this point, they seem to be focusing on scaling LLM (while Google Deepmind is exploring other avenues)
Google can also bundle Youtube TV, YouTube Premium, Google Drive, Storage, Ad free Search, Gemini integrated Docs/Sheets/Gmail, Subsidized Pixel Phones / Watch for a monthly fee of say $99 and it'll be very compelling for a lot of people
Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced
#328I go to gemini.google.com. I type an prompt with "Create an image of ...". Response: > I can't create images yet so I'm not able to help you with that. Still broken, still not functional despite Google having announced this feature many days ago. I love many Google products but I am slowly losing a lot of faith and goodwill towards Google. This is just embarrassing.
Image generation isn't available in Europe.
Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced
#329Gemini Ultra seems better on logic than GPT4. Still messing around testing but here's a prompt Ultra nailed but GPT4 completely botched: Tabitha likes cookies but not cake. She likes mutton but not lamb, and she likes okra but not squash. Following the same rule, will she like cherries or pears https://i.imgur.com/KW6gQbc.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/OSHSvLp.png
Please anyone correct me if I'm wrong: LLMs cannot solve this kind of riddle. This has nothing to do with their capabilities for logical reasoning, but with the way words are represented as tokens. While they might know that "apples" has two syllables because that is mentioned somewhere in their training data, if you make up a fruit "bratush" a human will see that as two syllables, but this might be 1 to 7 tokens to…
GPT-4 has a really good tokenizer that is able to retain and use more information about input tokens than one might naively think.
Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced
#330Did I get this right? Bard – old name of their generative AI service, to be called Gemini Duet AI – old name for their generative AI in Google Workspace, to be called Gemini Gemini – three things: 1. the name of their models (like GPT). 2. the new name of their free service (like ChatGPT), gives access to Pro 1.0 but not Ultra 1.0. 3. the new name of the Generative AI tools in Google Workspace. Gemini Advanced – the…
I was just trying to remember how google's "ai" search thing is called earlier today.
Looks like I shouldn't have bothered, they were busy renaming it. Did someone in marketing get a promotion for this?