jQuery v4.0 Beta

Post by claytongulick » Wed, Feb 07, 2024, 3:26 PM UTC

holoduke wrote: post #255

hnfong wrote: post #206

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You don't "need" an application framework. People have been building websites (even SPAs) before the 2010s and they didn't "need" these frameworks. Given what we know today, I'll grant you that in some cases people would want to use a framework, but it's hardly a necessity unless the context provides more specific requirements.

Its can be convenient to have some kind of reusable conponents. Like listviews wtih certain functionality. Same for routing. Caching etc.

Post by [deleted] » Wed, Feb 07, 2024, 3:28 PM UTC

Macha wrote: post #305

cxr wrote: post #247

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I don't know what you think that link shows (I don't know what John thought it showed, either—it's a classic "talking to one's own head, instead of who you're trying to communicate with" situation, and David Baron's confusion on the mailing list at the time is understandable). To reiterate: > The argument for querySelector / querySelectorAll calls is literally mimicked from John Resig's grounbreaking API design No, i…

Using CSS to select elements within the browser arguably only became popular because of jQuery, (and Prototype, Mojo, etc.). The browser inbuilt suggestion at the time was to programmatically navigate the DOM, or maybe use XPath. Proposing CSS selectors as a browser API before it became dominant in the wild via alternatives would have got a "why do we need another option?" response.

Post by kinj28 » Wed, Feb 07, 2024, 3:30 PM UTC

Post by claytongulick » Wed, Feb 07, 2024, 3:38 PM UTC

noduerme wrote: post #160

technojunkie wrote: post #18

For those of you who are curious what drives jQuery in 2024 and beyond, you need to remember that WordPress is still more than 1/3 of the web, and the majority of installations and so many plugins critically rely on jQuery. Yes, seriously. Any advances to removing deprecated APIs or functions are great. jQuery will probably be around dominantly on the web for years to come.

I was going to post on HN not long ago and didn't, about how I still can't find a great event chain handling / bubbling model that lets me use both DOM members and abstract class instances to trigger interchangeable events. I've built my own event dispatchers here and there, but jQuery just does everything right. Although event handling is almost the only thing I still use jQuery for, it's so useful that I still incl…

    document.querySelector('#something').dispatchEvent(
      new CustomEvent('myCustomEvent', {...options})
    );

    document.querySelector('#something-else').addEventListener('myCustomEvent', () => {...});

    new Event('myCustomEvent')

    class Test extends EventTarget {
    ...
    }

    let foo = new Test();
    foo.dispatchEvent(...);

Post by junaru » Wed, Feb 07, 2024, 4:02 PM UTC

Zetobal wrote: post #229

TheMajor wrote: post #136

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The fact that Wordpress runs so much of the web sometimes wakes me in a cold sweat. If you're a dev worth their salt and knows proven engineering and design patterns, then Wordpress code is absolutely terrifying to look through.

See comments like yours do that for me. I will see you in the 30 meetings needed for the new form on the contact page.