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Re: Anki – Powerful, intelligent flash cards

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Post by CuriouslyC »

samus wrote: post #311
CuriouslyC wrote: post #296

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I would rather get cards that are really well designed ___as cards__ (which chat gpt will do better than me given the time I want to spend) even if there is some loss of "value" from not breaking the material into cards myself, because I will make it up on the back end by studying the cards more, and having cards that are more correctly designed for optimal study. Who cares if I did the work of breaking the material…

Why would you end up with shitty cards if you did them yourself? And how can you even tell whether ChatGPT made good ones? And how much of a difference do the "better" cards even make? There is not necessarily a tradeoff here. Sure, you will make some errors, but if you find a card to be so bad that it's useless for SRS (unlikely, unless the answer is very vague or too long to quickly validate) you will just delete i…

There is a "skill" to everything, and my card making skill is probably a 3. It takes me some time to identify nuggets that will be long enough not to be trivial but also short enough to make good cards and salient enough to bother with. ChatGPT on the other hand is probably a 7.5-8 in making cards, and it can crank them out. On top of that it can suggest things that you are probably going to be tested on given the stuff in your notes that you might miss if you just created cards from the contents of your notes. If you have a famous teacher at a public university who teaches every semester for a big core class, it can even go far beyond that in ways that will surprise you.

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Post by crimsontech »

sivers wrote: post #255
arboles wrote: post #245

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Interesting, because the creator of Supermemo wrote that Spaced Repetition doesn't work on children because their brain re-arranges and repurposes structures far too much, making children's forgetting curve far too unpredictable, or at least different from adults. https://supermemo.guru/wiki/SuperMemo_does_not_work_for_kids Spaced repetition flaschard software is all about scheduling the flashcards around predictions…

It's not perfect, but it's better than not doing it. He enjoys it.

I showed my son Anki when I was using it to memorise things for an exam I had to do. He has been using it very successfully to memorise things too.

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Post by fudged71 »

studley wrote: post #202

I've found Anki useful for focusing piano practice. Each piece of music I have worked on over the years has a few tricky bars in it. Before Anki, I was really bad at remembering which bars I was bad at in each piece, and would tend to practice the bars I already know how to play, which is pleasant to do. Today, I have one deck, which has a flashcard for each set of tricky bars from all the pieces I've worked on. Now…

I saw someone saying the exact same thing for practicing tying knots.

There’s something there. Physical skills learned with spaced repetition.

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Post by hereme888 »

pavelboyko wrote: post #36

Spaced repetition, especially when using tools like Anki, is effective for memorizing facts. However, memorization represents the most basic level of learning objectives, see e.g. [1] and [2]. Are there any recommended tools for practicing more advanced levels of knowledge, such as relational analysis, synthesis, and critical evaluation? [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloom%27s_taxonomy [2] https://en.m.wikipedi…

Initial deck: simple facts. More advanced decks, after simple facts are memorized: concept-based.

Example:

Front: Rotator cuff tear - diagnosis? Why would this make sense?

Back: MRI is generally better for soft tissue; you wouldn't use a CT scan, which is much better for bone. Remember that X-rays / CTs generally work by shooting high-frequency electromagnetic radiation "X-rays" at tissue - if the tissue has dense elements like Ca++ in bone, the X-rays will be reflected back by the dense elements. This is why X-rays and CTs are good for detecting dense things like blood (iron in heme is dense), bone (calcium is dense) or even why we use contrast (things like barium or iodide are dense elements)

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Post by llelouch »

rickcarlino wrote: post #249

I love how much attention spaced repetition gets on HN. Does anyone know if there are any communities for researchers or engineers working on spaces repetition and adjacent problems? /r/spacedRepetition is basicly dead. I really wish there was a place where I could discuss space repetition research with technical peers. if such a place does not yet exist and there is interest in creating one, please reach out I am ea…

Maybe try the supermemo discord.

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Post by rickcarlino »

llelouch wrote: post #325
rickcarlino wrote: post #249

I love how much attention spaced repetition gets on HN. Does anyone know if there are any communities for researchers or engineers working on spaces repetition and adjacent problems? /r/spacedRepetition is basicly dead. I really wish there was a place where I could discuss space repetition research with technical peers. if such a place does not yet exist and there is interest in creating one, please reach out I am ea…

Maybe try the supermemo discord.

That answers my question. Thank you!

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Post by crimsontech »

brcmthrowaway wrote: post #291
sivers wrote: post #18

My boy is 11 now. We've used Anki with him every day since he was about 5. Examples of things he's memorized, for fun: * every country, recognized by unlabeled shape on the map * spelling * many body parts, names of bones and organs, from illustration * chemical elements, by symbol (Na, Fe, Zn, etc) * unix filesystem commands * numeracy references (km from here to Japan, earth to sun, meters from home to school) * re…

Jesus christ. I often wonder why I can't compete at school and this is why.. you never know how much prep/silver spoon other kids got

How is this silver spoon? I grew up in poverty and my mum taught me to real (and learned herself at the same time) before I started school. She did this so I wouldn’t suffer through school like she did.

I taught my daughter to read and write before she started school. Being part of your children’s education is awesome.

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Post by ckbishop »

spencerchubb wrote: post #138
pavelboyko wrote: post #36

Spaced repetition, especially when using tools like Anki, is effective for memorizing facts. However, memorization represents the most basic level of learning objectives, see e.g. [1] and [2]. Are there any recommended tools for practicing more advanced levels of knowledge, such as relational analysis, synthesis, and critical evaluation? [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloom%27s_taxonomy [2] https://en.m.wikipedi…

I think the closest thing would be concept mapping software or knowledgebase software like Obsidian. But that's more about storing concepts and not so much about learning concepts. If that software existed, it would be incredible.

Obsidian has a spaced repetition community plugin that I use when I write documentation. I add a flashcard for everything that I want to learn.

So you just put #flashcards inline (or whatever you tell it to look for) at the bottom if your file.

And then:

This is a question::this is the answer. This is another question::this is another answer.

I run through my cards about 30 minutes before I start work. It works very well.

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Post by wenc »

sevg wrote: post #198
kazinator wrote: post #183

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Most of these things don't require Anki. It's a tedious waste of time. > every country, recognized by unlabeled shape on the map That's a stupid thing to memorize, not to mention constantly churning due to political instability. You really need to gatekeep what you stuff into your noggin. Most educated people could recognize certain countries by shape, like Italy, Africa, USA. But every country? Come on ...

A parent is sharing their joy(!) of using Anki to help their child develop curiosity, feel a sense of accomplishment, and learn about the world. And your response at someone else's joy is to swat it down and call it tedious and stupid?

I’ve found that there is a noticeable correlation between high HN karma and just poor behavior in general. Many of the least insightful and most nitpicky replies I’ve ever received were from people with karma > 10k.

I wonder about why this is.

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Post by sivers »

BeetleB wrote: post #263
sivers wrote: post #250

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About 1000 cards now. We do it daily. It's often just a few cards per day, so it takes 1-5 minutes. Spelling is the biggest category. I record myself saying a word that I've seen him spell wrong. The answer is the written word. Many of his old life-memories are saved. A picture of a playground he loved, where we used to live. A frame from a movie he liked. Asking for the name of the hero in a book he loved. Anki make…

> About 1000 cards now. We do it daily. It's often just a few cards per day, so it takes 1-5 minutes. 1000 cards over 5-6 years is 160-200 per year, so on average less than one a day. Did you start out slow and increased the pace as he grew, or is it more of chunking (e.g. add a few cards per day for some days, then just review for days before adding more)? I'm sure whatever approach you did was organic and not plann…

> How did he encode what the neighboring countries are?

See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syria

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syria#/media/File:Syria_(ortho...

That map of the globe is what we use as the front of the card

He sees that and knows the answer is Syria.

But because we also do that for the other countries around it, he knows Turkey, Iraq, Jordan, Lebanon, etc. He knows where that country is, in context of its neighbors.

We have some little mnemonics to remember things like, "I packed my bags in Pakistan. After that, Afghanistan. Then Iraaaan all the way til I hit a rock in Iraq."

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