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Zed, a collaborative code editor, is now open source

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Post by Aeolun »

Matl wrote: post #287
zogrodea wrote: post #254

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't understand this comment because American/European governments (where I would guess most HN commenters are from) are almost certainly doing the same thing according to what we've learned about for example the NSA. Maybe you trust your own government more.

Most westerners I've spoken to think that even when a Western government does bad, there's probably good intentions behind it or at least more noble than any non-Western government. On the flip side, even if you believe that, there's an argument to be made that if you live in the West then the Russians/Chinese care way less about you than the Five Eyes.

I mean, it’s been at least a few decades since my home country started it’s latest war.

It’s not that it’s non-western, it’s just that the countries I don’t trust are mostly dictatorships or something very close to it.

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Post by maxverse »

mcfedr wrote: post #132
machomaster wrote: post #130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have the same issue in Yandex Browser (based on Chrome) on Android.

You've chosen to let the Russians spy on your web browser?

It's possible that the user is Russian and using the locally popular browser

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Post by gtirloni »

misternugget wrote: post #15
packetlost wrote: post #3

I hope this leads to Zed being ported to other platforms (Linux, please!)

Hey! Engineer at Zed here. Linux port is on our roadmap. Hopefully we'll get it done this year!

What kind of help do you need to make this happen?

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Post by Aeolun »

misternugget wrote: post #23
AlexAndScripts wrote: post #5

How many people find real time sharing helpful? I've never found it to be beneficial. I'm curious.

I only joined Zed, the company, a week ago, so take this with a grain of salt, but: I've never really used real-time sharing (tried VS Code's Live mode and other apps) for longer than just 1-2 attempts, but at Zed things are different somehow. Everybody is constantly available in a channel and people just hop in or out. In the last 7 days I spent 3-5hrs every day pairing with others, using Zed's live mode. No video,…

I think what’s nice is that it’s frictionless. If I can just click a button to see someone’s editor, then there’s no dance with sharing screen, I can open files I need to see, etc.

With standard sharing you always end up trying to direct people to do things instead of just showing them.

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Post by benreesman »

Octoth0rpe wrote: post #51

I'm generally a big fan of zed and have been using it for 60%ish of my dev time for 6 months or so. A couple of nice things to note: - It really is remarkably responsive,and makes one really notice how UNresponsive everything else is. I have reasonably fast machines, so we're not talking about the difference between 5ms typing lag and 500ms, but it's still pretty surprising. VSCode never felt slow on my macs until I…

I’m really picky about my tools in general and latency in particular, and I give Zed a spin from time to time, it’s sweet. Clean, minimal design aesthetic, tree-sitter, tight code, it’s a nice bit of work and I dig it a lot.

But emacs 29 with the right flags and a tuned GC (no one does this! it’s got a heap-size from the 80s!) is just as snappy and has more amazing packages than VSCode.

There’s a market for people who want something snappier than VSCode but less labor-intensive to set up than emacs, and I wish them luck: I think it’s a front runner there. But I can’t imagine switching my main axe up with a holy shit moment a lot crazier than tree-sitter in 2024 and not having the render loop be in JS.

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Post by mattigames »

numitus wrote: post #317

I am just wondered, how many lines of codes people writes every day, that code-editor speed is so important?

I dont think is much about how much you write, is more like your brain consciously and subconsciously keep track of how enjoyable/frustrating is to any use any given tool (or perform any given action), for developers that includes the code editor, and some developers percieve speed as one of the most important features to make it enjoyable

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Post by mcpherrinm »

foundry27 wrote: post #304
mcpherrinm wrote: post #273

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Work with code on any machine This is referring to remote editing support. Platform support is in their FAQ, but I agree it should be a bit clearer on the homepage. Perhaps the download button should say "Download for MacOS" or similar. I do think your comment here is unnecessarily rude.

Rude to who exactly? OP criticized the landing page for a) omitting the fact that ~85% of desktop computer users can’t use Zed, and b) alluding to this not being the case with language about working anywhere. This isn’t an attack on the authors, or on the product they clearly put so much time into. Yeah, OP said the page is really bad. But IMO we should be able to express negative opinions on things we think suck abo…

Let me quote two of the entries from the "In Comments" section of https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

> Be kind. Don't be snarky. Converse curiously; don't cross-examine. Edit out swipes.

> Please don't post shallow dismissals, especially of other people's work.

Expressing negative opinions is fine. But perhaps you should have a fear of being rude. We are a community, and there's plenty of other people reading these comments. I value kindness and being constructive, neither of which the comment I replied to appear to express.

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Post by Aeolun »

evmar wrote: post #219

This looks really nice, but I am confused why the install is over 350mb, including a 300mb binary. I thought Electron-based stuff was big but this is even somehow more!?

At least it’s fast after installing that 350mb blob. Often it’s a sign that something is going to be really slow.

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Post by wilsonnb3 »

jamil7 wrote: post #258
safouen wrote: post #21

i've heared about Zed for a long time and it seems promising but as long as it's not on windows/linux it's not for developers.

Ah yes windows, the classic developer OS.

Windows is the most popular developer OS according to the 2023 stack overflow survey, for both professional and personal use.
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