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Introducing Google Drive... yes, really

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Post by TomatoTomato »

aoprisan wrote: post #228
lee wrote: post #211

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you just wanted an offsite backup option, you should check out the startup backblaze.com They're offering unlimited storage for $4/month.

there is no such thing as unlimited storage. I'd be wary of anything that tries to fool me with the unlimited wording. GoDaddy's hosting packages are unlimited but after 200k inodes, it's not really that unlimited, is it?

"[Some users] store multiple terabytes."

They are certainly not a replacement for S3, but could be a substitute for some use cases. Also, they can certainly change their stance at any point, but they are certainly committed to truly unlimited.

http://blog.backblaze.com/2011/02/03/backblaze-is-committed-...

http://blog.backblaze.com/2011/10/26/backblaze-2-0-unlimitin...

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Post by urjitbhatia »

What do these hardware control permissions mean?

"take pictures and videos Allows the app to take pictures and videos with the camera. This allows the app at any time to collect images the camera is seeing."

Doesn't this language bypass the point that the images/videos can only by captured when the 'user' initiates the camera app?

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Post by hornbaker »

huggyface wrote: post #248
hornbaker wrote: post #225

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I think you got an "old pricing plan," which does not include Google Drive: http://support.google.com/drive/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answ... I'm in the same boat, having had an 80GB plan for $20/yr for some time now.

I think you got an "old pricing plan," which does not include Google Drive I actually bought an 80GB "old" plan this morning ($20 isn't that big of a bet) after seeing the leak of the upcoming pricing, essentially trying to grandfather in a more favorable plan. While the comparison implies that the old plan doesn't have gdrive, I most certainly have it and have the full 80GB available in it. Further I retain the abil…

I certainly hope you're right. Glad to know it's working for you. I haven't yet received access, so I can't tell.

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Post by VikingCoder »

huhtenberg wrote: post #318
VikingCoder wrote: post #304

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You just described every business. People don't have perfect knowledge. Thank you for trying to raise awareness over an admittedly important issue. But calling this "evil" is absurd. Go yell at people convincing college kids to sign up for credit cards or buy magazines by handing out T-shirts and movie passes. For comparison: The phone companies know about every phone call you make. That's a wealth of information. Th…

Sure, now imagine that ADP, Telco, Visa, HP and Dell are the same company.

Then I would read the terms of use VERY carefully.

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Post by rogerbinns »

mmastrac wrote: post #310
rogerbinns wrote: post #280

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Dropbox also screw over paying customers who use shared folders. (Yes I complained, but they kept explaining it was for freeloaders repeatedly ignoring "paying") If for example you and someone else both pay Dropbox for 50GB each - ie Dropbox is being paid for 100GB of unique storage - and then you share some folders they deduct their space from your quota. As an example if they share 20GB of folders with you then you…

Ugh, really? I use Dropbox for personal photos, as well as a shared space for some work stuff. I thought that it only counted against one of the users.

They are absolutely right about how shared folders could be abused by non-paying customers. For example you could create ten dummy free accounts and make them all share with your account, and then have lots of storage. That is why they count your own and shared for free accounts.

But they do the same counting for paid accounts even when all parties involved are paying. No amount of discussion with support would get them to even acknowledge the issue. If you go into your account settings you'll see the bar graph and details of how shared files are being counted against you.

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Post by encoderer »

kruipen wrote: post #201
SODaniel wrote: post #144

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Of course Google Drive is not a surprise to DropBox but I still feel that a 'One does not simply counter Google' Meme could be appropriate here.

dropbox presumably pays for s3 slightly less or slightly more (depending on redundancy level) than goog end user price: Over 5000 TB / month $0.055 per GB $0.037 per GB

AWS rates are all negotiable, and large users always negotiate. Doesn't mean you're far off, but that's a point worth considering.

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Post by kozubik »

TomatoTomato wrote: post #321
aoprisan wrote: post #228

Earlier quoted context omitted.

there is no such thing as unlimited storage. I'd be wary of anything that tries to fool me with the unlimited wording. GoDaddy's hosting packages are unlimited but after 200k inodes, it's not really that unlimited, is it?

"[Some users] store multiple terabytes." They are certainly not a replacement for S3, but could be a substitute for some use cases. Also, they can certainly change their stance at any point, but they are certainly committed to truly unlimited. http://blog.backblaze.com/2011/02/03/backblaze-is-committed-... http://blog.backblaze.com/2011/10/26/backblaze-2-0-unlimitin...

Unlimited storage is a farce, and places you in an antagonistic relationship with your provider:

http://blog.kozubik.com/john_kozubik/2009/11/flat-rate-stora...

... which is the last thing you want with serious backups.

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Post by rogerbinns »

rkudeshi wrote: post #62

[crosspost from the French translation thread - now that we have the official details, I think this comment is better discussed here.] So the things Google Drive has that Dropbox doesn't: * 2-factor authentication! * Comments on files * OCR - like Evernote, you can search against text in images (e.g. newspaper article) * Image recognition - if you upload a pic of the Eiffel Tower, you can find it with the search term…

We should also have list going the other - things Dropbox has that GDrive doesn't:

* Linux support * Headless (command line interface) * Public bug tracking and feature requests (votebox)

Unsure about these

* Shared folders

I'm struggling to come up with more.

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