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Meta censors pro-Palestinian views on a global scale, report claims

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Re: Meta censors pro-Palestinian views on a global scale, report claims

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Chances are, if something causes rage, the algorithm amplifies it (for you) because it may drive more engagement and increase ad revenue. It’s sometimes hard to know what’s actually happening on social media.

Plus, partisans of one side will always display the nuts on the other side, it's an easy slam dunk.

Re: Meta censors pro-Palestinian views on a global scale, report claims

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Have you noticed any patterns or organization in the flagging and voting of this subject, or does it all look organic?

I haven't looked closely, but based on what I have looked at, plus prior experience, I believe that flags of this kind are a coalition between two subgroups of user: those who dislike the content of an article for political or ideological reasons, and those who are more concerned about the content being bad for HN (e.g. because they're worried about flamewars).

> because they're worried about flamewars

Huh? I've never seen a flamewar on this topic?

I wish HN was more granular about measures for users, e.g. by marking these highly contested topics and just giving people topic-bans. Some people just completely lose their shit, and then other people lose their shit in response, and these people post a million messages by the time the rest of us managed to actually read the article and perhaps some relevant background info. It just craps up everything.

That's what Wikipedia does. Works reasonably well.

Of course it'd have to be programmed.

Re: Meta censors pro-Palestinian views on a global scale, report claims

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Eh this is really tricky, for exampe if I open instagram, Threads or tiktok 9/10 posts will be pro-palestinian with 1 being pro-israeli. Then some of the propalestinian post will be calling for genocide or celebrating the massacre of oct 7. IMO you shouldn't censor anything. That's the only solution. When something is propaganda or false just quickly tag it as such with why it is false like Xitter does.

> IMO you shouldn't censor anything. That's the only solution.

The two things that immediately come to my mind are the organisation of the genocide of Rohingya [1] and the live streaming of the Christchurch mosque massacre [2]. Both of these were promoted by Facebook too I believe.

Free speech absolutists see no issue with allowing that content to exist. I believe in free speech, but believe it has limits. It’s good to see the FB employee, dehrmann, with sane (personal) comments.

[1] https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2022/09/myanmar-faceb...

[2] https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/mar/29/facebook-new...

Re: Meta censors pro-Palestinian views on a global scale, report claims

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In a 2 day span I saw George Soros and Tucker Carlson get hit by Community Notes. Gave me some hope that Elon is serious.

> get hit by Community Notes How does that work? can anyone post a "community note", or by what process is that decided?

Some related HN discussions:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25906672

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25908439

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33478845

Re: Meta censors pro-Palestinian views on a global scale, report claims

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Please stop taking HN threads further into flamewar. Your account has a long history of doing this, and we've warned you many times. To continue doing it is not ok, and on this topic least of all. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34460722 (Jan 2023) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33209948 (Oct 2022) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32922335 (Sept 2022) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31010834 (Apri…

It's only a flamewar when you and PG, as it happens on a weekly basis, disagree with the comment :)

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Here you go. Some saying it: https://www.mediamatters.org/charlie-kirk/michelle-bachmann-... https://nypost.com/2023/11/21/metro/stuart-seldowitz-harasse... While others do it: https://news.yahoo.com/fact-checking-claims-israeli-soldiers...

Re: Meta censors pro-Palestinian views on a global scale, report claims

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May it be that Meta is just doing it job by weeding out fakes? Most of the pro-Hamas/pro-Palestinian propaganda that I saw contradicts the facts to say the least (or in the best case is only single-sourced with the source being either Hamas itself or a cozy affiliate of a Hamas like those Gaza offices of UN agencies).

Btw, Meta is outlawed (declared "extremist", it is somewhat like "material supporter of terrorism" status in US) in Russia for refusing to bend to Russian authorities and to carry only official Russian, completely false, propaganda.

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> Hamas is part if the resistance that by international law have all rights to fight the occupier by any means necessary including armed struggle But not by deliberately targeting civilians.

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So what? That doesn't exonerate Hamas doing the same.

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This is something people have to relearn over and over again. A lot of the people who are not upset with Meta limiting opinions and content related to the war in Gaza¹. Were gloating and happy when Meta limited opinions and content from right wing politicians² not so long ago. Once you invite censorship for content you dont like, how can you expect it wont bite you in the ass later on. This is why freedom of speech i…

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