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Re: He blew the whistle on Amazon. He's still paying the price

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You pretty much nailed it. Its only a whistleblower to outsides, its a mudslinger to insiders.

mudslinger to the people who are profiting from the bad behaviour that they want to protect for no reason other than greed? A more appropriate term than 'insiders' would be 'cunts'.

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Re: He blew the whistle on Amazon. He's still paying the price

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> Why? Its not relavent to my argument Your argument is that my statement framing the current conflict in Palestine as "A people were ethnically cleansed from the lands they lived on for centuries and those people continue to be oppressed and subjugated till this day, not only denied to return back to the lands they were expelled from, but continue until now to be forcibly expelled from the small amounts they remain…

Which part do you think doesn't fit? I believe the example i gave does fit. I understand from your post that you disagree but i can't figure out what specificly about it makes you think it doesn't fit. What is the part that isn't fitting?

Everything from "..continue to be oppressed" until the end. But again, the main point is how does your example have anything to do with the framing of the current conflict in Palestine and what the Palestinian people are undergoing?

Re: He blew the whistle on Amazon. He's still paying the price

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If we can all agree that UN resolutions and international law should allowed to be implemented, that would be a path forward better than what's currently happening.

There is a very long list of what would be better than the current status. None of them can work until the Jews and Palestinians actually want to stop killing each other. They are currently stuck in a prisoners dilemma. Who knows, if you are an optimist, maybe the destruction of hamas will be through enough that a successor accepting of current boarders comes to power. This is the only way I can imagine things moving…

This is a false portrayal of the conflict. Israel wants to finish ethnically cleansing the west bank (as they have been doing and continue to do until this day) and want to either keep Gaza as a concentration camp or ethnically cleanse it as well. Palestinians want implementation of international law and UN resolutions which require a return to 67 borders and a right for Palestinian return. There IS a right and wrong side here and portraying the conflict as both sides just wanting to kill each other is obfuscating with the intent of portraying both sides equally at fault and thus the conflict hopelessly unsolvable.

Re: He blew the whistle on Amazon. He's still paying the price

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Western companies which cared, went a bit bankrupt sadly. We have negative selection here.

Patagonia? Chick-Fil-A? I think when you go full B2B, you are destined to be a soulless corporate automaton.

Companies which sell though Amazon. Amazon uses a smart strategy of erasing the individual seller identity. Even if you already bought some item from some seller and very happy with it, you rarely would get similar item from the same seller. You usually would just get some which is first in the search, i.e. the one which makes Amazon the most profit.

If company cares about paying workers enough, your item would be more expensive, but you are still "noname" for the buyer on amazon. And now amazon would push your listing away, because it is expensive. Besides, the client will buy the cheapest option in a lot of cases.

There are exceptions though, when you more or less know what you wanna buy and from which exact company. But if you shopping for something like "massage gun" an have nooooo idea which ones are good or bad, sustanable or not - here you probably get something from the first search page with 5 star review and reasonable price. Not something from a company which cares about longevity of the product or about their workers.

And amazon workers are not living the happiest of their lives to begin with, so probably people would not shop their if the care about sustainability. People care about cheap prices and fast delivery though.

Chick-Fil-A has a lot of control about their operation. Sellers on Amazon have minimum control. It used to be that good price and good reviews would make your item easy to find, but now you also have to pay for it in more and more cases.

Re: He blew the whistle on Amazon. He's still paying the price

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The slavery and working conditions in China no longer really surprises me, what I do struggle to understand is that Western companies apparently DO NOT CARE. I can sort of accept, reluctantly, that the Chinese have a different way to thinking than I do and that I can't necessarily apply my moral code to China. What I cannot accept or understand is that the owners and managers of Western companies, who supposedly shar…

Nobody in power in industry and almost nobody from the consumer side cares about working conditions in any typical outsourcing country. Quite the opposite, "less regulation", "lower cost" and things like that are directly caused by ignoring worker rights and human rights (as well as a few other things). China is not alone in this, just more present in the HN-relevant IT/tech sector. But clothing in southeast asia, mi…

"It is not a bug it is a feature it seams". The only way to solve it is to make buying from local producer and from China the same, i.e. extra import taxes. But these import taxes nobody likes, so nothing is done. Just a couple of years ago there was no VAT when buying from China in EU (or it was barely enforceable).

Government is also kinda "happy" in the short run. It is easier to hide the real inflation. Before I could clothe in EU produced stuff, and now I can only clothe in asia produced. But I still get the "same" thing as a consumer, even if my real salary lost some power.

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