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Post by 1shooner »

homefree wrote: post #210
concordDance wrote: post #157

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I continue to be puzzled by people's strong opinions on Elon. He's says dumb things on social media but there seem to be unusually strong sacred contagion effects from that. Buying petrol from Shell or cereal from Nestle? No problem. Buying a Model 3 from Tesla? No way! Honestly, I'd be surprised if there weren't a ton of people with the same views on immigration or trans issues or covid or whatever, each associated…

I think it's just politics mixed with his Twitter ownership making him enemy number one of the mainstream press (replacing Zuck - they like Zuck now). You get article after article hating on him - it ends up affecting reputation and public sentiment. Humanity is lucky to have him, despite his faults.

>Humanity is lucky to have him

This is more hyperbolic as anything negative I've read about him the press.

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Post by jkubicek »

oceanplexian wrote: post #250
adastra22 wrote: post #196

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Almost everyone I encounter dislikes Elon Musk. I'm not even talking about tech people, although I do live in Silicon Valley and that might bias things. My hair dresser, my wife's make-up artist friend and stay-at-home moms. My kids' teachers. For better or worse, even random Joe Q. Public knows who the richest man in the world is, and has some opinion on him. Everything he does is scrutinized by the media and put in…

If by, by-and-large, you mean a minority of vocal people in a coastal elite bubble, sure, they don’t like what they see. That sounds great to me.

Why would that be great to anyone?

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Post by owenpalmer »

roflyear wrote: post #278
owenpalmer wrote: post #113

This is what we call vehicle weight inflation. As cars get heavier and heavier, the roads get increasingly more dangerous for smaller cars, which causes everyone to get bigger cars. And the loop continues.

And you'll pay a lot more in taxes to maintain the roads: "an increase in axle weight from 18,000 pounds to 20,000 pounds causes 50 percent more damage to the pavement." See: https://highways.dot.gov/public-roads/mayjun-2009/exploring-... . It's massive!

Wow that's crazy!

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Post by CamperBob2 »

golol wrote: post #268
CamperBob2 wrote: post #170

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The risk is that he will go much farther than he already has. If he comes out as a full-fledged neo-Nazi, which I wouldn't bet against given how erratically he has behaved lately, the value of Teslas on the used market will plummet.

Listen to what he says in some interviews, he is moderately right wing but there is no reason to think he would be a nazi.

I mean, you can buy a car from this guy:

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/11/29/elon-musk-to-advertisers-who...

You can buy a car from him, I'll pass.

There was no reason to think he would bid $54.20/share for Twitter, either.

There was no reason to think he would call a guy a pedophile for criticizing his submarine idea.

There was no reason to think he would name his kid with nonstandard characters.

There was no reason to think he would offer to trade horses for blowjobs.

There was no reason to think he would _______. I'm not saying he's a Nazi, or that he is especially likely to call himself one. It's impossible to say whether he is more likely to wake up one morning identifying as a Zen Buddhist, or a Laveyan Satanist, or a Nazi, or a Methodist.

You don't know what he'll say or do to hose the value of your car, and neither do I, and neither does he.

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Post by rpmisms »

mongol wrote: post #199
adamrezich wrote: post #186

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have you ever noticed how odd it is that the anti-Musk rhetoric is functionally identical to the anti-Trump rhetoric of 2016–2020, and also how no new Reichs were started 2016–2020, such that one can conclude that perhaps takes like this are possibly a hair hyperbolic in nature, and should maybe be reevaluted a bit before terms such as "neo-Nazi" completely lose any remaining weight they might have?

Did you miss January 6?

I don't think anybody missed it, but many people experienced far worse in their own cities during the "Summer of Love" in 2020. Nobody I know cares about J6 except as a political football.

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Post by hnburnsy »

rob74 wrote: post #33
xp84 wrote: post #3

I'm rooting for it despite it being silly and not a practical pickup, strictly because every car people are buying looks identical (picture a crossover SUV from Toyota, Chevy, BMW etc. Basically shoe-shaped things). This looks like a concept car that would never come to market. I hope it sells really well and convinces others to bring actually-creative designs to market.

The shoe-shaped things are that way because of crumple areas and pedestrian safety requirements (if the car hits a pedestrian, the bonnet is supposed to deform in order to minimize injuries). Contrast that to the Cybertruck, which... > ...has received criticism from automotive safety groups, including the Australasian New Car Assessment Program and the Euro NCAP, for not conforming to standards for pedestrian and cyc…

Are any mid or large sized American pickups sold new in Europe? All I can find is the Ford Ranger.

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Post by metabagel »

mschuster91 wrote: post #212
blackguardx wrote: post #164

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I would be interested to learn how this works in practice. In many companies separate divisions barely collaborate or take learnings from each other. 2 separate companies sharing learnings is unique.

Musk does this routinely, also with the Boring Company or with Twitter - upon his acquisition, he took a lot of Tesla staff with him to Twitter HQ [1] to help out. [1] https://www.cnbc.com/2022/10/31/elon-musk-has-pulled-more-th...

That was a specific case where he didn’t trust Twitter employees. And it was absolutely a galaxy brain move, given that Tesla employees had almost no domain expertise.

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Post by manmal »

mensetmanusman wrote: post #245
manmal wrote: post #216

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> as someone deeply concerned about climate change > I have one, but am looking for a second I think you are only superficially concerned about climate change if you are planning to buy not one, but two, fully steel enclosed monster trucks weighing 6.500 pounds each.

gatekeepers of ev purchases...

I‘ve had a fully electric Ioniq for almost 4 years, the most efficient car at the time. I‘d rather people buy a used compact, efficient diesel than bring such a monster into circulation. The waste of materials and power (40kWh/100km at 120km/h reportedly) is ridiculous.

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Post by rpmisms »

dylan604 wrote: post #301
Swizec wrote: post #188

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Here's a video about an intersection that had to be redesigned due to A-pillars. Vehicles approaching from opposite ends could hide in each other's blind spots and crash. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpgpE6wjF30 As a motorcyclist, I hide in people's A-pillar blind spots all the time. It's quite unnerving.

If you recognize that your in a blind spot, are you prevented from adjusting your position because you've pulled too far forward to actually place yourself in the blind spot? I know I sometimes find myself in positions that I know well to avoid, but sometimes it takes a second for it to be realized. My favorite is being aligned next to a semi's trailer wheels. I will slow down to avoid sitting in that spot when movin…

I'll sit in a blind spot on a motorcycle happily, if there's no other traffic. If there is, I pull forward next to the window instead.
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