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Post by JumpCrisscross »

VladTheImpalor wrote: post #316
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #311

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> they are more important than almost anything else I don’t think I had a window that wasn’t immediately blacked out until my mid twenties. And I always went for cheaper accommodation to have more cash on hand over luxuries I didn’t use nor value.

Congratulations? Now, what does that have to do with anything? Oh wait, you thought that just because you were speaking "your truth" it should automatically be used to override research, discard statistics, override policy and make decisions for a teenage population?

> what does that have to do with anything?

Illustrating heterogeneity.

> just because you were speaking "your truth" it should automatically be used to override research, discard statistics, override policy and make decisions for a teenage population?

Yes. Nobody is converting every building to a windowless room. Just providing choices.

Also, few opposing these plans care about the air quality in actual dorm rooms, nor quality of life of the people for whom they're making decisions with N = 4 studies sporting error bars the height of the Empire State building. They’re looking to win awards with illustrations. Or score brownie points on an adjacent class statement. (Consider the context within which this debate is occuring.)

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Post by keepamovin »

yellow_lead wrote: post #298
keepamovin wrote: post #258

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This is great, thanks for the write up on this sad news and the life of a laudable man. Where did you pull that from by the way?

https://twitter.com/kevg1412/status/1729632415742906370?s=20

Wow nice find! :) good research skills :) i mean it's hard to pin down exact text in a deluge of recent news about similar or the same! :D xx ;p ;) xx;p

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Post by raffraffraff »

whywhywouldyou wrote: post #306
steve_adams_86 wrote: post #299

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The women in my life have all played a significant role in my ability to build my career. For some, like my mother and my kids mom, this incurred some cost to their careers. I wouldn’t be where I am without them, therefore in a sense yes, they did work for my income. Often in hidden and yet incredibly important, valuable ways. My mom died, but if she were still around I wouldn’t think twice about taking care of her.…

What, exactly, are you talking about? The OP is referencing the fact that the wife got _everything_ in the divorce. I'd be curious to understand why "facilitat[ing] his success in some way over the better part of a decade" entitles her to everything he ever made.

Is "everything" the family home?

In a divorce it's much more about the kids than it is about the wife. The kids get stability in a divorce. Where possible kids live in their home with their primary carer, don't have to move to a new school etc.

Why is the wife the primary carer? It starts because the husband can't get pregnant or breastfeed. It's supplemented by the likelihood that he's already the highest earner, which generally meant that he slept on so he could work the next day, while she is more likely to lose sleep nursing a crying baby.

Biology is a reality. Reality is literally sexist, and women get the rough deal in almost every way. I wouldn't want that at any price. People think they can opt out of biology these days, but that's a luxury belief that comes crashing down when sex and reproduction comes up.

I can't imagine risking getting pregnant because of sex. I can't imagine having to be pregnant for 9 months for every kid, impacting my health. I honestly don't even want to imagine the painful, stressful and risky job of giving birth. I can't imagine lactating, and therefore being the one who can instantly feed a crying baby at night. And eventually losing out on a career because I'm tied to the home for 8 years straight to raise 3 kids.

Having said that, this norm, which has obvious and sensible roots in human history, is abused. And it is somewhat dated in some countries today where there equal parental leave for mother's and fathers, breast feeding stations at work, creches etc. But how many women, even in first world countries have those luxuries? And is childbearing and rearing not still extremely sexist by definition? Yes! Unless you're rich enough to pay a surrogate. But then it's still "some woman" taking on the physical discomfort and risk, albeit for money.

So, prime example: Heather Mills getting millions out of Paul McCartney was totally unfair because she didn't take a career break and lose out because she was raising their kids while he made his money.

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Post by rdm_blackhole »

monero-xmr wrote: post #289
gumballindie wrote: post #185

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Wow. I never knew all this about Charlie Munger, thanks for sharing. It’s rare gems like him that give me confidence that sometimes against all odds one can succeed. Also I appreciate his love for his family. That’s by far the most valuable asset one posses - if not the only.

Family first, followed by friends. It is sad to me that so many young people are voluntarily choosing not to have children. They are the ultimate - the reason we exist, the mechanism for leaving a legacy, the most beautiful thing on earth. Family is everything

That's your opinion. The reason I exist is because my parents made me. That doesn't mean I have to create a life to give my own life meaning.

The reason people choose to have less and less kids is because raising a child is a thankless/tough job and despite all the progress that has been made on the social aspect of raising kids, more often than not, it is still the woman's job to do the rearing and raising of the kids.

Family is not everything, I know countless people who were born in terrible families.

Leaving a legacy is so overrated, why do you feel like you need to do so? What is so important and so unique about you that if your family line were to end today, the world would be missing?

Please don't confuse your opinion with facts.

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Post by monero-xmr »

rdm_blackhole wrote: post #324
monero-xmr wrote: post #289

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Family first, followed by friends. It is sad to me that so many young people are voluntarily choosing not to have children. They are the ultimate - the reason we exist, the mechanism for leaving a legacy, the most beautiful thing on earth. Family is everything

That's your opinion. The reason I exist is because my parents made me. That doesn't mean I have to create a life to give my own life meaning. The reason people choose to have less and less kids is because raising a child is a thankless/tough job and despite all the progress that has been made on the social aspect of raising kids, more often than not, it is still the woman's job to do the rearing and raising of the ki…

On your deathbed, you’ll look back and consider what the point of everything was. We all make our own purpose and reason for living. But I dream of my kids, they give me so much happiness, and the best thing I ever did was have them and the joy they bring. It’s sad that people cannot see the beauty in this.

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Post by iancmceachern »

monero-xmr wrote: post #289
gumballindie wrote: post #185

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Wow. I never knew all this about Charlie Munger, thanks for sharing. It’s rare gems like him that give me confidence that sometimes against all odds one can succeed. Also I appreciate his love for his family. That’s by far the most valuable asset one posses - if not the only.

Family first, followed by friends. It is sad to me that so many young people are voluntarily choosing not to have children. They are the ultimate - the reason we exist, the mechanism for leaving a legacy, the most beautiful thing on earth. Family is everything

It's not voluntary.

Its societal pressures. Our society has changed fundamentally, look at any graph, income inequality, household earning power, household debt, etc.

You can't blame animals who go extinct due to deforestation and habitat loss and say "it's sad they chose to not reproduce"

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Post by rdm_blackhole »

monero-xmr wrote: post #325
rdm_blackhole wrote: post #324

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That's your opinion. The reason I exist is because my parents made me. That doesn't mean I have to create a life to give my own life meaning. The reason people choose to have less and less kids is because raising a child is a thankless/tough job and despite all the progress that has been made on the social aspect of raising kids, more often than not, it is still the woman's job to do the rearing and raising of the ki…

On your deathbed, you’ll look back and consider what the point of everything was. We all make our own purpose and reason for living. But I dream of my kids, they give me so much happiness, and the best thing I ever did was have them and the joy they bring. It’s sad that people cannot see the beauty in this.

If you think having kids is the best thing that ever happened to you, that's fine, but it is your opinion. Nothing else.

What is sad to me is people like you who think they got it all figured it out because you decided to procreate. Condescending much?

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Post by cezart »

Difwif wrote: post #160
paulpauper wrote: post #105

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genetics. they matter a ton . read the bios of really old people (100+ yrs old) and nothing really stands out beyond having a lot of family member who also lived a long time. I think a low-stress lifestyle helps a lot too.

Not to downplay everything you said but you really think Charlie Munger led a low stress life?

They lived frugal lives, with everything needed covered for probably 10'000 years ahead. Large families, plenty of friends and a lot of wisdom. Yeah, I think Charlie and Warren's life's have way less stress than most people do.
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