Neither @sama nor @gdb are known to communicate in all lowercase. That fact that both did today must mean something.
It means there was no shifty business.
Greg Brockman quits OpenAI
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Re: Greg Brockman quits OpenAI
#322Edit: I called it https://twitter.com/karaswisher/status/1725682088639119857 nothing to do with dishonesty. That’s just the official reason. ———- I haven’t heard anyone commenting about this, but the two main figures here-consider: This MUST come down to a disagreement between Altman and Sutskever. Also interesting that Sutskever tweeted a month and a half ago https://twitter.com/ilyasut/status/1707752576077176907 Th…
And there is: https://twitter.com/anothercohen/status/1725631445941563671
That's a parody account
Re: Greg Brockman quits OpenAI
#323This all seems so weird, and the list of Board members doesn't make this any easier to understand. Apart from the 3 insiders, there are 3 other board members. 2 of them seem complete no names and might not qualify for any important corporate board. In a for profit shareholders in theory control the board, in a non profit I am not even sure of who really has control over things.
There is one OpenAI board member who has an art degree and is part of some kind of cultish "singularity" spiritual/neo-religious thing. That individual has also never had a real job and is on the board of several other non-profits. What the hell were they thinking? Just because you are a non-profit doesn't mean you should imitate other non-profits and put crazies on the board.
Non profits too often can be uniquely bureaucratic, undertrained in governance and efficiency, and more tied to deeper personal interpretations or none at all and being open to bouts of oversimplification.
Re: Greg Brockman quits OpenAI
#324Can a super smart business-y person educate this engineer on how this even happens. So, if there's 6 board members and they're looking to "take down" 2... that means those 2 can't really participate, right? Or at the very least, they have to "recuse" themselves on votes regarding them? Do the 4 members have to organize and communicate "in secret"? Is there any reason 3 members can't hold a vote to oust 1, making it a…
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#325Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why is the fact that she is unknown disturbing?
It is more like someone from one of the poorest countries in EU going straight to pretty good private schools and pretty good companies weird. Not going to say it's impossible, but she is doing so good but left so few footprints on the Internet. Again just my personal early night conspiracy drink. Don't take it seriously.
Hopefully not too pedantic but Albania is not in the EU.
Re: Greg Brockman quits OpenAI
#326Edit: I called it https://twitter.com/karaswisher/status/1725682088639119857 nothing to do with dishonesty. That’s just the official reason. ———- I haven’t heard anyone commenting about this, but the two main figures here-consider: This MUST come down to a disagreement between Altman and Sutskever. Also interesting that Sutskever tweeted a month and a half ago https://twitter.com/ilyasut/status/1707752576077176907 Th…
What is confusing here is Why would Greg have agreed to the language in the press release (that he would be staying in the company and report to the CEO) only to resign 1 hour later. Surely the press release would not have contained that information without the his agreement that he would be staying.
> Why would Greg have agreed to the language in the press release
We have no evidence he agreed or didn't agree to the wording. A quorum of the board met, probably without the chairman, and voted the CEO of the company and the chairman of the board out. The chairman also happens to have a job as the President of the company. The President role reports to the CEO, not the board. Typically, a BOD would not fire a President, the CEO would. The board's statement said the President would continue reporting to the CEO (now a different person) - clarifying that the dismissal as board chairman was separate from his role as a company employee.
Based on the careful wording of the board's statement as well as Greg's tweet, I suspect he wasn't present at the vote nor would he be eligible to vote regarding his own position as chairman. Following this, the remaining board members convened with their newly appointed CEO and drafted a public statement from the company and board.
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#327What an unbelievable turn of events! To the outside observer, OpenAI is one of the most successful, well-oiled machines, shipping nearly weekly and doing an unbelievably good job marketing itself. Clearly, there's a lot of turmoil going on behind the scenes.
Definitely lots of tape and bubblegum holding things together. Like any fast growing company! And this one is breaking speed records.
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#328Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why is the fact that she is unknown disturbing?
It is more like someone from one of the poorest countries in EU going straight to pretty good private schools and pretty good companies weird. Not going to say it's impossible, but she is doing so good but left so few footprints on the Internet. Again just my personal early night conspiracy drink. Don't take it seriously.
If I had a dollar for every Ivy school student whose parents were government functionaries in poor second and third world countries I could probably get a few years of Amazon Prime. But so what? I think it's good for the talent, and good for this country.
Re: Greg Brockman quits OpenAI
#329Hope they fire the person that forced verified phone numbers on new accounts.
Verifying phone number is one of the last things which is still effective when fighting against bot registrations. Alternative is to ask money for registration. Here is idea for hacker news crowd: make service which is a proxy for phone number validation: user needs to validate his phone number once in that app and any other 3rd-party service can ask this app for security code which confirms phone number ownership. W…
KeyBase could have been that service. I really wish they'd stayed focused on identification rather than crypto wallets and chat.
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Smells like XYZ agencies, or some white gloves.
No, all native Californians are like this (this just replaces hippie Buddhism with hippie computer worship) and the singularity stuff is the reason OpenAI was founded in the first place. And the reason Elon is mad at them, because they pivoted from it.
Hippie computer worship seems like indirectly self worship as the creators.