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Companies with these terms in job postings are usually a red flag, but don’t be too judgmental: >We are family! No boundaries, underpaid, nepotism, etc. >Fast paced working environment! Mostly toxic environment. >Attention to details! “Big boss” will scream at you for silly things. >Will require working overtime if needed! Self explanatory. >Fun loving, company culture activities, etc. Your typical kindergarten offic…
i sure as hell can, have and will.
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I don't understand why people think that this philosophy only makes sense if you have gigantic compensation packages. What's so off-putting about: "Do well and you stick around, do poorly and you go away"?
Danger pay is a thing for a reason. Contracting pay vs salaried pay is a thing for a reason. Or mathematically, the long term expected return from a volatile employment situation should be equal to the long term expected return from a stable employment situation.
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> What's so off-putting about: "Do well and you stick around, do poorly and you go away"? Because I don't want to have that kind of instability if I don't get a lot of money to make up for it. It works because people know that if they get "cut" they'll be doing fine. Also, the best people have lots of options. If there are multiple interesting options, all else being equal the extra cash will help a lot.
> Because I don't want to have that kind of instability if I don't get a lot of money to make up for it Sadly, I see way too many people in our industry who do get a lot of money, and still feel they're allowed to deliver little to show for it.
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I think there's a large cultural component here. I've never worked at a place where any significant "team building" took place outside of work hours, but I know many devs (mostly outside the US) who told me that it does.
I've always had these events outside work hours. We get paid to work. After work, the company is buying us drinks but not paying us to drink them. Where's the problem?
Alcohol only increases that anxiety, and what makes it worse, is knowing that I HAVE to go to a couple to seem like a "team player".
I'll let you know what it's like, for at least 2 days leading up to the event, I'm constantly practicing things to say, then trying to figure out all dialogue trees, and what my replies should be. I will practice and practice, and the amount of stress that causes, the lack of sleep, staying up late constantly trying to figure out what to say, worrying about what someone might say back.
Running past things they have said to me, trying to categorize and itemize all the things in their lives that they have so that I can seem like I am a normal person.. just to fit into their world.
Now, you're also saying that there's going to be alcohol, which means that I will most definitely say something dumb, or slip up.. people will look at me differently, and I will get the distinct feeling that people are talking about me behind my back, and I'm being excluded from things.
Then the event happens, and I try my best to say absolutely nothing, and stick to my script... someone says something totally random to me, and I have not prepared for this, I say something back... this one interaction, one of many, will be the thing that I am now constantly beating myself up about for days if not years later. I have no idea if people hated me because I didn't reply with the correct words in the right order, with the right facial expressions... all things that I do not understand.
And on top of this... I'm expected to do this every now and then because without doing it, I'm going to be silently punished by a group of managers who cannot fathom what this is like. Or colleagues like you who think "hey, it's cool, we're getting beers!"
Sorry, but no.
I NEED my downtime, I need my time to not have to deal with all of that. YOU don't need me there.
Where's the problem?
I have seen reports of how things go in "old money" families. It doesn't look at all like the idea we make of families. They have access to vast amounts of resources, but family members don't have free access, far from it. There is council that decides how the funds are allocated, and when family members need some, they need to pitch how they are going to use it, and the expected returns. And if some family members a…
This is well written and I agree that family is a very imperfect analogy for a working relationship. At the same time, some work situations are more or less family-like and it still pays to look for the "more." I've been lucky that 4 companies I've worked at in my life so far have been very "employee forward" - creating scenarios of employee growth and engagement (vs putting employees in the seat of powerless cogs).…
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Netflix is paying much closer to 2x on the cash side than 10x, let alone 20x. https://www.levels.fyi/companies/netflix/salaries/software-e...
Wow if these numbers are correct it has declined a lot. Then again the stock is not meteoric like it used to be. Netflix was minting multimillionaires all day long back their younger years.
When I was young I worked at a company that said things like "we are family" and kind of meant it. It wasn't really a good thing unless you were a low performer. We had some people who were hired into jobs they couldn't do well, but they got to keep those jobs because it was like their role in the family. People basically never got fired, including the couple guys in the corner who barely did any work but had been th…
Oh, it means something; usually date-driven development, get stuff out without any care of quality beyond platitudes. Yell at the devs when they're late, then yell at them when they're not because the code is shite.
When I was young I worked at a company that said things like "we are family" and kind of meant it. It wasn't really a good thing unless you were a low performer. We had some people who were hired into jobs they couldn't do well, but they got to keep those jobs because it was like their role in the family. People basically never got fired, including the couple guys in the corner who barely did any work but had been th…
When I was young, I worked at a company that said things like "we are family" - and knew exactly how to manipulate with it. I'd had a pretty rough year, my last year there - a recent breakup, a deteriorating domestic situation, and a death march at work. Management was aware of all three. In the end, I decided to leave the company. The attempt to retain me was not more money, or really anything around comp - it was s…
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No, it's a way to distract them so they won't notice they're being screwed over financially and opportunity cost-wise. You are immune to this exploit, which makes you a black sheep in their eyes, but not that you should care. Look for places that don't do the bullshit and you'll end up better off than the sheep.
As someone who is also on the spectrum, the following common behavior in a company baffles me. The company will exhibit the following behaviors at the same time: - they will organize a bunch of social events, full of drinking and games, fly colleagues from all over the world to some exotic location - will refuse to increase your salary to match inflation citing lack of funds (which were somehow available when flying…
You'll end up with a very cynical model, where most people can't plan one and a half step ahead, and can be easily convinced to do very dumb things. But, like it or not, that's how society works. And every successful person has figured out, and is ruthlessly abusing this model.