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Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Post by BLKNSLVR » Sun, Jul 23, 2023, 9:41 PM UTC

pessimizer wrote: post #268

charlieyu1 wrote: post #162

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Do jurisdictions really care about child porn before internet? I always feel like it is just a convenient excuse for them to get away with their bullshit, for a largely non-existent problem.

No, they didn't. They still don't. Not having a victim on the other side of the case (possession of child porn, not production of child porn) gives judges an easy excuse (and no opposition) to sympathizing with the accused and suspending the sentence. Child porn is just leverage to pry. We used to care as much about sending information about birth control through the mail. And with the modern movement to sexualize ch…

I believe this is the case, as unfortunate as it is.

The loudness of their voices in "protecting the children" when politicians are introducing new communications surveillance measures, with no mention of local, boots-on-the-ground, child protection services funding increases, just screams to me that they care about surveillance a lot and about protecting children not at all.

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Post by yyyk » Sun, Jul 23, 2023, 9:45 PM UTC

bell-cot wrote: post #120

Wowfunhappy wrote: post #47

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> Further, as Kosovo is an extremely corrupt country, we are able to bribe both executive and judicative as well as getting information about court orders and raids before execution. What happens if someone else is willing to pay a higher bribe than you are...?

Competent corrupt officials can do the math, and understand ongoing 1X bribes are far better than poisoning their money tree by stupidly accepting a one-time 10X bribe.

It's more complicated than that. After all, these bribes aren't exactly public and transparent. A competent corrupt official can always pocket the 10x and pretend that the 1x target didn't pay in time, or that some other official did it, or some other excuse.

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Post by BLKNSLVR » Sun, Jul 23, 2023, 9:47 PM UTC

linsomniac wrote: post #112

My BIL used to work CP with the DHS, a tech going in heavy with the first wave to secure devices. I asked him if he had ever run into Tor exits, he said no, but they did sometimes run into people with unsecured wireless that had been used by third parties and once it was clear that was what happened it was pretty much dropped. I'm sure they would have ways to deal with people leaving their WiFi open as a way of camou…

How often do they raid a residence and find nothing?

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Post by BLKNSLVR » Sun, Jul 23, 2023, 9:48 PM UTC

onetimeusename wrote: post #103

Someone used the same exit to hack a NATO facility in Poland, which deals with chemical and biological weapons. Disarming, etc. The US tried to extradite me from Croatia in 2017, with not much more info than national security. They lost their case as I am married to a local and cannot be extradited outside the EU. So once again the "think of the children" motive is used to cover for intelligence interests.

Always, and in all ways

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Post by Etheryte » Sun, Jul 23, 2023, 9:50 PM UTC

trogdor wrote: post #213

foobiekr wrote: post #200

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All of them.

I am all-but-certain that NordVPN doesn't. I am in possession of records from a recent police investigation in which law enforcement subpoenaed NordVPN and the company replied, essentially, that they had no information connecting a particular IP address, at a specific date and time, to any specific user. (I am a reporter who covers law enforcement and crime.)

You must be mistaking NordVPN for Mullvad.

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Post by mschuster91 » Sun, Jul 23, 2023, 9:50 PM UTC

wonderwonder wrote: post #266

mschuster91 wrote: post #197

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> I don't think anyone is saying he should be in jail because he's saying misogynistic stuff. For what it's worth, I do. The shit he and others of his ilk teach to young, vulnerable men is inspiring a lot of real-world violations of women, some even get drawn to outright terrorism and murder. In Germany, we call such persons "geistige Brandstifter" for a reason. They may not light a fire on their own - in general the…

Can you show sources for where he has caused "a lot of real-world violations of women, some even get drawn to outright terrorism and murder."?

I wrote "he and others of his ilk". Just read the Wikipedia article on Incels for a list of violent incidents [1].

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incel#Mass_murders_and_violenc...

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Post by jrflowers » Sun, Jul 23, 2023, 9:52 PM UTC

Eisenstein wrote: post #278

ip26 wrote: post #250

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There are many, many… It’s a little puzzling to me still why this is. Physical attraction to almost-adults isn’t some big mystery, but most cp is something else entirely.

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I’m no expert here but I’m going to guess that equivocating gay people and pedophiles is not the best starting point to understanding pedophiles.

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Post by tarboreus » Sun, Jul 23, 2023, 9:54 PM UTC

chollida1 wrote: post #315

rvba wrote: post #260

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Looking at the scale of NordVPN they either already have a liason with aurhorities inside, or are hacked by authorities. The (law enforcement) agencies can just go to the few biggest VPN suppliers. Just like they go to FAANG.

> Looking at the scale of NordVPN they either already have a liason with aurhorities inside, or are hacked by authorities. Based on what? You just seem to be making a wild unsubstantiated conjecture here.

It's obviously an unsubstantiated statement, but given all the concrete information on the MOs of alphabet agencies, it seems like a reasonable bet. If they haven't done one of those things, they probably just haven't gotten around to it yet.

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Post by RajT88 » Sun, Jul 23, 2023, 9:54 PM UTC

Eisenstein wrote: post #308

treis wrote: post #252

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I still can't decide if it was just a bad movie or satire by someone that didn't quite get how satire works.

It was satire by someone who absolutely understands how satire works. Starship Troopers, the film, is brilliant. The same director did Robocop, and if you don't get the genius satire of that, then I can't help you.

In fairness, those films can be enjoyed both superficially and as satire.

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Post by wonderwonder » Sun, Jul 23, 2023, 9:55 PM UTC

mschuster91 wrote: post #326

wonderwonder wrote: post #266

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Can you show sources for where he has caused "a lot of real-world violations of women, some even get drawn to outright terrorism and murder."?

I wrote "he and others of his ilk". Just read the Wikipedia article on Incels for a list of violent incidents [1]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incel#Mass_murders_and_violenc...

Tate is an incel? "a member of an online community of young men who consider themselves unable to attract women sexually"

I think Tate is going to be super surprised to learn that. Dude is many things, an incel is not one of them.

Perhaps you have been caught up in the hysteria and are attributing things to him that he is not responsible for? I'm not a Tate fan and think he is probably not a good person but there has very much been a witch hunt / circus atmosphere around those who are anti him. Dude advocates for traditional male roles in relationships and for people to think for themselves and try to be the best version of themselves. Alot of it is very much a money making scheme. He is no worse than a lot of other people and far better than others. He has his good and bad aspects like everyone else. If its found he is guilty of the crimes he was charged with then I hope he goes to prison. If not then he has a right to speak.