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Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

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Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

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sigh. Android Sync was one of the best reddit apps i have used. it had tons of customization, never crashed, snappy, had multi-window support etc. Apollo on iOS was a distant second.

Agreed, Sync was perfection. It got a little rocky with the redesign, but I think the dev handled it masterfully by rolling back for a bit and taking stock. The re-launch allowed you to configure the UI of the app any way you liked, so you could go for an "old.reddit" style information dense UI if you wanted it.

Sync was exquisite I just had to pay for it. Apollo was good, I used it on iPad, but Sync captured well so many of reddit little things like domain browsing, multireddits etc

Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

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I remember signing up for Reddit as a college freshman. I was a digg user and joined Reddit in the aftermath of that fiasco. I sometimes laugh looking over my post history for the past decade plus. If you read the posts linearly, you can trace my evolution from a kid arguing passionately over politics and culture (things he didn't really know much about), to a more mature young adult who rarely waded into discussions…

Joined reddit the second half of my freshman year of university in early 2008, after hearing about it from an XKCD comic on 4chan. It was during the democrat primaries (Hillary vs Obama) and between that and the science articles I was hooked.

It was not the only website of its kind, but it was the fastest for news updates and also had some content on other sites like it didn't (such as slashdot, which had the tech and science stuff but not much else). I would repost stuff to FB and managed to garner a decent amount of clout that way. It went along like that for some years but eventually reddit 'hit mainstream' and the content I reposted didn't get the same traction. At that time I remember thinking reddit wasn't "underground" anymore. I recall that thought occurring in 2012.

But that still didn't stop me from using it, except for a couple breaks it was my primary source of info and discussion and debate for many years, even to this day.

However I'm at a point though where I feel like I need to divorce myself from social media entirely (perhaps even HN). The 'debates' / discussions / etc feel as though they have run their course for me. It's like groundhog day where I feel like I've had the same interactions 1000 times over to the extent where I don't feel like it's worth the effort.

But at the same time living without social media makes my world feel much smaller. I only talk to a handful of people, my friend group has dwindled significantly, and adding new folks has become really difficult, even with sparse usage. I feel like I was so dependent on social media for so long to keep in touch with people that, now living without it, I have practically no social connections.

This has been exacerbated by my decision to live a sober life, free of any and all mind altering substances. Going out to a bar or music night loses most of its appeal without alcohol involved. Likewise for gaming without smoking. Between all this and no social media, my life has become really... Well, boring I guess. spend my days reading books, and going to the gym. It's more boring than it sounds. No social media also means no gigs and that's a bummer, may have to start looking for steady employment.

Anyway to stay on topic, I don't know what a world looks like without these things that have taken up so much of my life in the last 15+ years. I'm just trying to take it one day at a time. I want to develop other hobbies but thus far the motivation I previously leveraged from caffeinated beverages has dried up as well. So I guess I can just wait and see, and try to remain optimistic.

Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

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post #313

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That's the thing - what I like about reddit is that every single community is right there. I don't need to figure out a new complex system. It's a megaforum with every single subniche you can think of, without having to go to any other site or any other server I want a centralized megaforum. I don't care about federation or what technology it uses. I just want easy access to everything

This seems to be a very common sentiment that is not stated that clearly often, but it makes me very sad to read it. The magic of the internet, once upon a time, was discovering content in your own time. You stumbled into that cool niche forum, found someone’s personal blog, a flash game page. It didn’t need big centralised services to be fun. Internet users have become consumers and want to be fed content. I do not…

I think it's correlated to the failure of search engines.

There is no way to discover content anymore, long gone are the days where some expert's blog would appear prominently when searching a topic. Now all the results are people trying to sell you something. Reddit has replaced google (more or less) for a lot of people.

The only functional search engine nowadays is marginalia.

Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

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post #250

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If we’re having a wake… I remember when I accidentally became a moderator of /r/science because they asked for variety of domain expertise and I’m a geographer and c’mon… nobody’s a geographer. It was a fun experience. Then became an educational one. Then frustrating. Then thankless. Then I stopped. I’m happy for the lessons. I’m sad it died years ago.

Im a systems engineer who works with 5 geographers, and a director who is a double PhD geographer. The geospatial engineering we do is a thing of art, and affects over 11 million people. I get it!

Geographers are like wizards: there’s only so many of us at any one time. I’m amazed your company has amassed six!

Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

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If you care about this stuff, please at least give the fediverse a try. Yes it's inadequate right now in all kinds of ways. But the main reason is that not enough people are there. It needs critical mass. Pick whatever you want - kbin, lemmy, mastodon. Go there, find your community (it will probably look very sad compared to Reddit). And contribute something positive - comment, post, whatever. If everybody just did t…

I'm not even slightly interested in the "fediverse". My impression is that most of the people involved are more interested in the ideology of decentralisation and the technology than they are about community building. I don't care even slightly about decentralisation. The focus is to the clear detriment of the product itself.

This shows you have not been on the fediverse and certainly have not indulged with communities mostly populated by long-time fedizens who view it as a place from their community to their community. There is a lot of feeling of community, inside instances, wider subcommunities, with a great example being the push to pre-emptively block all Meta instances and projects.

Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

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This seems to be a very common sentiment that is not stated that clearly often, but it makes me very sad to read it. The magic of the internet, once upon a time, was discovering content in your own time. You stumbled into that cool niche forum, found someone’s personal blog, a flash game page. It didn’t need big centralised services to be fun. Internet users have become consumers and want to be fed content. I do not…

I think it's correlated to the failure of search engines. There is no way to discover content anymore, long gone are the days where some expert's blog would appear prominently when searching a topic. Now all the results are people trying to sell you something. Reddit has replaced google (more or less) for a lot of people. The only functional search engine nowadays is marginalia.

This is exactly the issue. Search is useless, just like Amazon is useless.

5 years ago even the internet as a whole at least felt functional. Today everything feels like a giant scam.

Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

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post #265

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For what it's worth, Lemmy and kbin are very much the v1 of the fediverse, the UIs and servers are improving quickly as they break (just like how reddit was notoriously down all the time years ago). After you sign up you don't have to care much about servers or instances, just tap "all". I don't think it will be long before someone comes into this space with a good UI and the community that reddit just marooned and t…

You're not exactly selling it.

I’m not going to sing praises that it’s a perfect drop in replacement.

It’s a pretty good replacement for Reddit, and the community that’s forming seems good so far.

Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

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post #192

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Why are the apps being charged for api access and not the people using them?

I can't think of any software that the end-user pays API fees or even supplies their own API key/token. I've only ever needed to supply that when interacting with APIs directly in a developer setting. That, or open-source projects that require API access from some 3rd party.

Passing it on to the users wouldn't have required billing by API key, just gate at authentication instead.

Rate-limit unauthenticated requests per API key and authenticated requests per account. Problem solved. Turn $0.12/month users into $5.99/month users, and don't worry that the 3rd-party apps aren't showing ads - because Premium users don't get ads anyway.

Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

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post #63

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I think so. Though it’s not nearly as sophisticated as you might think. Are you interested in hosting an instance of it?

Having an equivalent of Nitter and Invidious would be amazing! I would love to host an instance of this API, you should publish your code! Apps like RedReader will be impossible to modify and use in a libre manner without a replacement API implementation like this.

> Having an equivalent of Nitter and Invidious would be amazing!

Something like https://teddit.net/ ?

Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

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If every Reddit user was tagged with their age, it would be an eye-opening experience. "Why is this 16-year-old talking about divorce lawyers on r/relationship_advice?"

A 16 year old with recently divorced parents probably has some reasonable insight there.

I think that is absolutely not true.
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