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Kagi raises $670k

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Re: Kagi raises $670k

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I really enjoyed Kagi but it wasn't worth paying $25/mo for unlimited, and like you I don't want to be thinking about metering my searches.

I am a very avid searcher and have not once brushed up against the search limit.

Maybe I'm holding it wrong.

During my one-month test of Kagi using it for everything on all my devices I did 674 searches according to them.

Re: Kagi raises $670k

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Can someone help me a little? I tried Kagi and when my 100 searches ran out I stopped using it. I really didn't like the feeling that I needed to meter my searches, it added a barrier to every search I did (should I use Kagi for this or should I just use Google?). It sounds stupid but literally every search I did I had a pang of worry that I was "wasting" a search. I also didn't experience a huge increase in search q…

I'm completely the same as you so I did the following: I took the $10 plan and watched my usage for a week. I seem to hover roughly at about 30-40 searches per day on average so I upgraded to the Family plan. Yes, I know, it sounds weird but now I've got 1400 searches and just didn't invite anyone. And I don't have to worry about if it's going to be enough because my own data says that it's going to easily be enough.

Lenses are actually why I subscribed mostly. I search for organic data often while trying to find help for a product or the opinions on a service or something like that. Regular search is ok, changing to the Forum Lense is mind blowing because I only get discussions from real people.

Re: Kagi raises $670k

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https://help.kagi.com/kagi/features/lenses.html or just !help lenses

But how do you use lenses?

I'm not Vlad (the person you asked), but I use Lenses almost all the time. They have changed how I search for user generated content completely. I used to add "site:reddit.com" to at least 2/3 of my searches and the Forum Lense does the same for me while including many other discussion boards. I love it.

As an example: I'm playing Diablo 4 at the moment and getting info about the convoluted systems can be a chore. For example: I didn't know that I have to do at least a Tier 3 Nightmare Dungeon to unlock Sigil Crafting. None of the usual pages mentioned that. The Forum Lense saved me a lot of time because users discussing it mentioned it quite a lot.

Re: Kagi raises $670k

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The other day I wanted to make a quick Venn diagram as a joke, and I was sure hundreds of people have made a simple tool for this and put it on the web. I did a search (on kagi) and all the top results wanted me to sign up or subscribe. The joke I wanted to make wasn't worth it for that. I was reminded of google in present times, loads of results that are almost what I'm looking for, but filled with frustration inste…

https://excalidraw.com/ is a great tool to have in your belt for this and other quick drawing needs

Re: Kagi raises $670k

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SAFEs are common in equity crowdfunding. Raises on Republic are often SAFEs. I'm not a fan.

Why are you not a fan of SAFEs ? Thanks.

To be clear, I don't like them from the perspective of equity crowdfunding, which has an alarmingly high percentage of low-information, follow-the-crowd, "dumb money" retail investors.

SAFEs muddy the waters. It's just another thing that already overwhelmed retail investors need to take into account when considering whether to invest.

https://www.finra.org/investors/insights/safe-securities

Re: Kagi raises $670k

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> Google is facing incredible adversaries Are they? Google could manually remove the worst SEO sites from the index and like reduce the spam you get for dev queries with like 95%. It takes time to build up rank and like 10s to remove the site. There is an extension that does this client side for Firefox. Try it. (I don't remember the name. I only have it on desktop). The only explaintions are that Google is too dysfu…

> Are they? Google could manually remove the worst SEO sites from the index and like reduce the spam you get for dev queries with like 95%. Do you think they don't have a huge team doing just that? Easier said than done. > The only explaintions are that Google is too dysfunctional to do anything or they are doing it on purpose to increase revenue. Otherwise there is no way the SEO would suddenly become this bad. This…

> Do you think they don't have a huge team doing just that? Easier said than done.

How can the Stackoverflow mirrors, that kinda hide that they are mirrors, rank so high then? If there was any team at Google doing manual review, the Google engineers would spam them with mails complaining that those site ruins their copy-pasta coding flow.

Re: Kagi raises $670k

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I think a good transparent business is funded by users and/or is publicly traded. This stuff makes me cautious.

Publicly traded means that your primary customers are Blackrock and Vanguard, the whole concept of individual investors is just investment firms fooling people into thinking they have some influence over a company.

Lol ETFs don't get to tell you what to do, they just buy if you perform well and sell if you don't. Though who am I kidding they don't even sell

You don't need to organize fundraising events etc you just do your thing and if you do it well you get extra money.

But of course it is all assuming Kagi cannot profit enough from is users. Which apparently it cannot.

Re: Kagi raises $670k

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I had to read the headline twice. At first I read it as $670 million, and I was very sad. That’s “VCs gonna enshittify it in 3 years” money. But then I saw the “K” and grinned. This is proper bootstrap money, and makes me hopeful that Kagi will stay close to its original mission. Congrats. I am really pulling for you, Vlad.

> This is proper bootstrap money,

By the way, to "bootstrap" a business is short for "pulling yourself up by your own bootstraps" (yes, it's an old phrase) and means not raising any money.

Just a to bootstrap a computer is to start it when it has no code loaded or running. Nowadays it's in ROM so the term is rather obscure but we used to toggle a little bootstrap program in from the front panel or, if you were lucky, load it in from paper tape. That program was very short, just enough to get some more code loaded and start it.

Re: Kagi raises $670k

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I would be more inclined to trust them if they had a warrant canary. I can’t seem to find one.

Sounded like they claim to not store identifying information along with searches at all, which is the biggest privacy concern to me.

They can claim what they want; the fact remains that I have to trust them. If I use Brave or DDG or even Google, I can do things to obfuscate my identity from them. Kagi is the only search engine that requires users to authenticate, and ties that authentication to a method of payment that can be trivially tied to the user's identity. As far as the user is able to verify, that makes them the least private search engine.

Even if they're telling the truth, if they receive a national security warrant, they'll start collecting that information secretly. Hence my interest in a warrant canary.

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