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Reddit is removing moderators that protest by taking their communities private

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Re: Reddit is removing moderators that protest by taking their communities private

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Why did reddit choose to charge app developers (causing financial uncertainty) for API requests instead of charging the end-users? By purchasing my own usage and loading an API key into Apollo, I could continue to pay Apollo for the app alone like today, and pay Reddit separately for the API access. At least this way, I could decide if I’m happy with the price for API access. I can only assume Reddit deliberately wan…

Seriously, brilliant approach. What a missed opportunity.

Re: Reddit is removing moderators that protest by taking their communities private

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post #109

Smelled this one coming miles away. Next, they'll hand over fan-built communities to the entities that own the IPs they're dedicated to. Eg. r/starwars to Disney, r/startrek to Viacom/Paramount, etc. Then, old.reddit.com will stop working spontaneously, just like how they toyed with killing mobile browser access to force users to download the app, which they probably will eventually. That's going to be the final push…

What would you rather they do, go bankrupt? Reddit is not profitable. They need a path to profitability to continue operating in a high rate environment.

I'm very sympathetic. Doesn't seem like alienating all the volunteer labor is the way to go though.

Without much inside info, I think what they should have done is something like: 1. Make actually-good first-party tools for moderators, 2. Figure out how to monetize everything else.

But trying to make money off of the volunteer labor is not the way to go, IMO.

It really reminds me of Twitter. Why can't these super high traffic sites where all the content is contributed for free figure out how to make money?

Re: Reddit is removing moderators that protest by taking their communities private

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post #247

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They are done, 100%, this is the turning point and it's all downhill from here. They depend fundamentally on volunteer labor and every decision they've made since announcing the API change has alienated that labor. The morale of every mod I know is in the tank. The solution for this was incredibly simple. Reddit you want to charge for the API? Go right ahead, we all want you to make money. But when the volunteer labo…

The threshold for free API usage for modding tools is being increased from 60 to 100 queries per minute https://mods.reddithelp.com/hc/en-us/articles/16693988535309 There are a very small minority that exceed that even now apparently. Seems not unreasonable to me.

Why is this downvoted?

According to the linked article, even the bots which exceed the usage were manually whitelisted to stay free.

Re: Reddit is removing moderators that protest by taking their communities private

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post #109

Smelled this one coming miles away. Next, they'll hand over fan-built communities to the entities that own the IPs they're dedicated to. Eg. r/starwars to Disney, r/startrek to Viacom/Paramount, etc. Then, old.reddit.com will stop working spontaneously, just like how they toyed with killing mobile browser access to force users to download the app, which they probably will eventually. That's going to be the final push…

If they remove old reddit, I'm done. The "new" reddit UI is literally one of my least favorite things in the world. Filled with clutter and ads, requires too many clicks to see what you want to see, low information density... I could go on.

Someone has to be using the redesign, most I'd guess, but I don't understand how. It's one thing that I don't like the look and feel, that's pretty subjective to a point, but the problem is that it doesn't actually work.

Something as basic as reading comments is still broken, after all these years. You can not navigate the comment section. Seems like a pretty big oversight, unless you betting the farm on doom-scrolling, and I think that exactly what's happening.

Reddit management left the community to it's own devices for years, now the ad revenue is drying up, they have an IPO around the corner (because no VC is going to throw more money into an anonymous message board). I don't really see any easy out for Reddit, they do need money, but I'm not sure they are going about it in the right way.

Re: Reddit is removing moderators that protest by taking their communities private

#325

Personally, I couldn't care less about Reddit itself, but what's really annoying is that half of my Google searches end up in temporarily closed subreddits. Reddit has become some sort of a Stack Overflow lately - I hope all that knowledge will be moved somewhere else.

just add “cache:” before the url (without the quotes, without any extra space), most of the time it works. it should go to google cache in most browsers.

Re: Reddit is removing moderators that protest by taking their communities private

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This is so sad honestly. Like wtf is going on, no apology, no good will, doubling down on the complete moral suicide of Reddit. To push an app no-one ever liked, you know that, but whatever. No-one likes “new” Reddit either, you know that, but whatever. Who’s even gonna use the site after this? Social media zombie sheeple is all that's going to be left. Congrats on your dumb little site, from the front-page of the In…

All they had to do was make showing ads part of the ToS for developing third party apps, to require login for API access, and make only mass scraping require $$$.

So easy to fake those conditions, though, and then you’re right back where you started only with a fun new game of whackamole to play.

Re: Reddit is removing moderators that protest by taking their communities private

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post #183

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If they remove old reddit, I'm done. The "new" reddit UI is literally one of my least favorite things in the world. Filled with clutter and ads, requires too many clicks to see what you want to see, low information density... I could go on.

New reddit is the worst. Who even designed it? Every time I accidentally find myself on new reddit UI, I feel like I'm looking through foggy glasses. Over the course of about 20 seconds, I blindly click around, feeling lost and confused, then frustrated, and then I just add "old" to the URL.

> Who even designed it?

This guy. https://www.wired.com/story/reddit-redesign/

To be fair I tried it again and it's speedier and better than I remembered, especially with the classic view.

I still prefer old Reddit though. Even to Lemmy, as I prefer the fluid layout and contrast between comments.

Re: Reddit is removing moderators that protest by taking their communities private

#328

I wouldn't be surprised if they've put themselves on the radar of Harvard Business Review for having the ball in their court and somehow phenomenally fumbling it at every opportunity

Because they were only given 30 days before the API changes kicked in.

Re: Reddit is removing moderators that protest by taking their communities private

#329
post #109

Smelled this one coming miles away. Next, they'll hand over fan-built communities to the entities that own the IPs they're dedicated to. Eg. r/starwars to Disney, r/startrek to Viacom/Paramount, etc. Then, old.reddit.com will stop working spontaneously, just like how they toyed with killing mobile browser access to force users to download the app, which they probably will eventually. That's going to be the final push…

They are done, 100%, this is the turning point and it's all downhill from here. They depend fundamentally on volunteer labor and every decision they've made since announcing the API change has alienated that labor. The morale of every mod I know is in the tank. The solution for this was incredibly simple. Reddit you want to charge for the API? Go right ahead, we all want you to make money. But when the volunteer labo…

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Re: Reddit is removing moderators that protest by taking their communities private

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post #146

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Spez is CEO because the board and investors deem him to be the best person for the job. Of course, he founded Reddit, so he has a strong case on merit for why he is the #1 person on the planet to run the company. The process for selecting moderators is way less meritocratic or democratic than this. They merely got there first, finders keepers. The analogy for landed gentry is accurate.

The analogy for landed gentry is accurate. Land is finite and subreddits are not. You can fork off and make your own subreddit whenever you like If subreddit mods are landed gentry, then so are open source maintainers.

This seems like a broken analogy.

Of course you can make an infinite amount of subs, but with 0 users they would be pointless.

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