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Re: Show HN: Non.io, a Reddit-like platform Ive been working on for the last 4 years

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Post by stOneskull »

twic wrote: post #105
alexb_ wrote: post #23

I feel like having people get paid for upvotes is going to create a massive amount of bad incentives.

So each user puts a dollar a month into upvote cash. I think i upvote ~10 things per day on Reddit. I use Reddit most days, so say 250 things a month. Given the same pattern of behaviour, each one of my upvotes is worth 0.4 cents. A post getting 1000 upvotes earns $4. That's already quite a lot of upvotes, enough to get on the first page of a reasonably big sub. Posts on r/all (today, which may be abnormal) are at 10…

your upvote is worth 0.4 cents but the other upvotes are worth different amounts. if i upvoted once each month that's a dollar there.

Re: Show HN: Non.io, a Reddit-like platform Ive been working on for the last 4 years

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Post by mrtranscendence »

Zetice wrote: post #300
mrtranscendence wrote: post #271

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Given the popularity of searching for things like product reviews or good restaurants in a new town by appending “Reddit.com” to the search query, I think elucidation and discovery are at least part of what drives people to such platforms.

Not really a given, that’s just how you use the platform. You’d have to show thats a substantial part of Reddit’s traffic and therefore revenue, for it to actually be given.

To be clear, that’s not how I use the platform (I’m not sure I’ve ever searched that way). But it’s a common enough pattern that there have been widely read articles referencing it:

> This means you’ll no longer have to add “Reddit” to your searches when you’re looking for thoughts from actual humans, not empty answers from websites just trying to get clicks.

https://www.theverge.com/2022/4/20/23034024/brave-search-fea...

> It turns out that almost 70% of polled readers add 'Reddit' to their search results at least sometimes.

https://www.androidauthority.com/reddit-web-search-queries-p...

I can’t say that it’s a substantial portion of Reddit’s traffic, of course. But clearly it’s not just a mrtranscendence idiosyncrasy.

Re: Show HN: Non.io, a Reddit-like platform Ive been working on for the last 4 years

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Post by johnnyanmac »

bradgessler wrote: post #312
root_axis wrote: post #36

Congrats on the hard work, and the idea is fine, but the problem is that tech like this is a cheap commodity in a massively oversaturated space, and without a hook that makes the platform exceptional (innovative/clever/beautiful design, unique aggregation features, inherently interesting content, reimagined user/content/moderation dynamics etc etc), this kind of thing is dead in the water because it lacks a network e…

What is it about insanely great user experience design that's hard to "open source" in the same sense that engineers are able collaborate on software, like Linux, and achieve massive distribution?

I dont think UX is "harder". But the kinds of people that can realize a launch like this need to be technically minded, tend to work alone, and lean a lot more on the "Linux" side of this than the UX side. It's like trying to find the perfect Programmer/Artist hybrid to make a game with; it's simply two different mindsets that rarely get taught together.

As an example, look at most of Linux Distro's UX since you brought it up. They aren't meant for the layman the way Mac/Windows was. the deeply technical audience, for better or worse, puts up with a lot of UX issues for their tools. That doesn't work the same way for a general audience website or app.

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But that's from the "why can't programmers art" side of the argument. Of course, that begs the question "why can't programmers find artists to work with them?"... well, there's a dozen different reasons. Culturally, historically, socially, and so on.

But to list the one big reason; there aren't stereotypes about programmers being short on cash and needing to commissions out programs after their full time job just to get by. (a few) programmers do all that just for their own self-fulfillment or for their own goals, with no expectations of a big payment most of the time. Because many are already financially comfortable.

Re: Show HN: Non.io, a Reddit-like platform Ive been working on for the last 4 years

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Post by replwoacause »

goncalomb wrote: post #182

So posts need to have a unique/custom path directly under the main domain? https://non.io/avo-jump Sounds like a recipe for disaster. At least it should be in a sub-path (/post/?), and probably include some sort of unique id.

I don’t think users should get any input on the URL. I’m failing to see the upside in allowing this.

Re: Show HN: Non.io, a Reddit-like platform Ive been working on for the last 4 years

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Post by demizer »

JustBreath wrote: post #255
danudey wrote: post #232

I like the concept, though I agree with a lot of the comments about people content farming and reposting comments for upvotes and I think that would kill the site (since Reddit already has enough of a problem with this and that's just for fake internet points). The thing that I think a lot of people are missing about Reddit is that it's not a content aggregation site like HN or Digg or your site, Non.io; it's a commu…

Yeah one key missing feature is subreddit creation and moderation. Without all the free labor from moderators curating content for topics with different tastes and ideas about what the community should be, it's going to be a struggle to build a community.

Maybe that extra dollar should go to the mods? And the communities get to elect their mods so they can be held accountable. Maybe we won't get the MrBabyMan or POTATO_IN_MY_ANUS situation.

Re: Show HN: Non.io, a Reddit-like platform Ive been working on for the last 4 years

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Post by adammarples »

bee_rider wrote: post #145
idiotsecant wrote: post #32

The idea of posters getting real money instead of fake internet points when their posts do well seems interesting, but maybe an unintentional experiment in unintended consequences. Moderation will be extremely important to prevent low-effort memes and content regurgitation and the like from saturating your main channels. Have you considered how you will encourage moderation and keep it free from the corrosive influen…

If everyone chips in $1, and their $1 is split between all the things they’ve upvoted, isn’t the financial incentive to produce posts that are upvoted by people who don’t typically upvote? That actually seems like a pretty interesting incentive.

Yes it seems quite clever. People who upvote zero effort memes willy nilly will spread their share thin.

Re: Show HN: Non.io, a Reddit-like platform Ive been working on for the last 4 years

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Post by bardak »

jjcm wrote: post #293
bardak wrote: post #246

The use of tags vs discrete communities keeps it from being a viable alternative to Reddit for me. I have a real disdain for tags for user generated content. Every site I have seen use tags I end up having to wade through a ton of spam or vaugly related content to whatever tag I am looking for. The only exception I can think of is Hashtags for twitter but that is due to the character limit. I understand that people s…

It's a hybrid model, and I'd be curious if people like this or not as it's been something I'm fiddling with. Note that when you vote, you upvote the tag itself. The vote within the tag determines its order when browsing the tag itself. So if something is tagged with #formula1 and has 483 upvotes for the tag, it will appear high in the #formula1 list view. If it's also tagged with #funny with 1 upvote, it will appear…

That is a pretty good solution to the relevant tags and spam issues I was worried about. Good thinking there. One half of my issues gone.

The single conversation is still a big problem for me. I really like being able to have conversations within a specific community and get specific angles on a topic. I also like to look at a conversation on the same topic in different subreddits to see how different communities react. It's not to say that one way is inhertly better but more of a personal preference.

Re: Show HN: Non.io, a Reddit-like platform Ive been working on for the last 4 years

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Post by stOneskull »

brk wrote: post #108
newman8r wrote: post #26

I wasn't able to register initially due to some password strength requirements that aren't written anywhere, and got errors without an explanation of why. Generally I would have bailed at this point but wanted to give your project a look. Good luck, I think it's a cool idea.

Same. Seems to need "special characters" in the password, even though I got a green check mark when putting in a long/strong password with no special chars. No information in the error feedback, just a red X. As a side note, I'm tired of websites deciding that a password is not strong enough simply because it does not contain enough random subsclasses of basic ACSII characters.

> I'm tired of websites deciding that a password is not strong enough simply because it does not contain enough random subsclasses of basic ACSII characters

me too. and i'd guess at least half of people put 1! at the end to fulfil the requirements anyway.

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