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Googlers angry about CEO’s $226M pay after cuts in perks and 12,000 layoffs

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Re: Googlers angry about CEO’s $226M pay after cuts in perks and 12,000 layoffs

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>we should be getting a slice of total business unit revenue Start a company then. Pay is not determined by value, it's determined by leverage. The CEO pays himself the most money because he controls the company, he's not going to pay anyone lower than him more than he makes.

CEO doesn't "pay himself the most money"; CEO pay is not decided by the company executives but directly by the shareholders/board.

How many companies pay VPs/senior employees more than the CEO outside of hedge funds?

Re: Googlers angry about CEO’s $226M pay after cuts in perks and 12,000 layoffs

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>> Pop artists make similar money scantily clad and squeezing autotune I wasn't the one that made the implication that Taylor Swift's lifetime revenue was "peanuts"

I'm not following, and rereading the thread now it looks like it's been edited to the point of not making sense. I thought the thread was something like: > What pop artist makes that much? >> Swift >>> But she's the top of pop artists, that's not a fair comparison (implied: because google should be paying a more "normal" amount) In which case "but Google is the top of tech" would be a fair counterpoint. But if the ar…

>scantily clad and squeezing autotune

The implication is that 220M is peanuts because pop artists who just sell sex and use autotune make that kind money. Describing Taylor swift as someone who "squeeze autotune" is ridiculous; Taylor Swift has arguable done more than Sundar.

Are pop stars who "dress sexy and abuse autotune" making sundar money? Does Taylor Swift fit that profile? How did we go from "scantily clad and squeezing autotune" to "actually I meant elite popstars"? You have a guy making 3-4x more than his peers (at Microsoft and Apple, who CEO, despite performing better than Sundar took a pay cut!), being compared to the highest grossing entertainer of all time.

Re: Googlers angry about CEO’s $226M pay after cuts in perks and 12,000 layoffs

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I disagree about being overpaid. Similar to other professions - engineering and medicine for example - we have a career which requires a dedication to constant learning. We build systems which allow companies to generate billions in revenue and deserve a slice of the pie.

Most engineers earn nothing close to FAANG comp. Even some really great computer scientists who just don't happen to live in the silicon valley bubble don't.

FWIW I'm not at FAANG level or even have a good educational background. If anything FAANG developers skew the statistics for the majority

Re: Googlers angry about CEO’s $226M pay after cuts in perks and 12,000 layoffs

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As an employee of a publically traded software company, I can never understand why people feel entitled to their job. I sell my time to my employer and either party can back out of that transaction

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Posting like this will get you banned on HN, regardless of how simple someone's mind is you feel it is. Please don't do it again.

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Re: Googlers angry about CEO’s $226M pay after cuts in perks and 12,000 layoffs

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I'm not following, and rereading the thread now it looks like it's been edited to the point of not making sense. I thought the thread was something like: > What pop artist makes that much? >> Swift >>> But she's the top of pop artists, that's not a fair comparison (implied: because google should be paying a more "normal" amount) In which case "but Google is the top of tech" would be a fair counterpoint. But if the ar…

> scantily clad and squeezing autotune The implication is that 220M is peanuts because pop artists who just sell sex and use autotune make that kind money. Describing Taylor swift as someone who "squeeze autotune" is ridiculous; Taylor Swift has arguable done more than Sundar. Are pop stars who "dress sexy and abuse autotune" making sundar money? Does Taylor Swift fit that profile? How did we go from "scantily clad a…

You forget that Microsoft tried to hire Sundar to be CEO. Sundar has job opportunities. He was an engineer. He was the PM of Google chrome.

Satya and Tim weren’t being courted by anyone when they took their jobs.

Re: Googlers angry about CEO’s $226M pay after cuts in perks and 12,000 layoffs

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Got to give it to Larry Page and Sergey Brin for having their cake and also eating it. They control ~51% of voting power with shares thanks to owning ~85% of class B shares. They have had the benefit of someone else running the company for 8 years - and increasing the value of it - and now, when things are not looking great, it’s Sundar Pichai who gets the blame, and the focus on his compensation: and not those who s…

>it’s Sundar Pichai who gets the blame

Unpopular opinion, but he should. Google has pretty much been uninventing cesspool since he became the CEO. The only thing that are up are profits.

Re: Googlers angry about CEO’s $226M pay after cuts in perks and 12,000 layoffs

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In comparison, Nadella is a bit above $50M which is gross underpay considering how Ballmer left the company. Nadella has been the best CEO in the past decade. In fact, you could argue that he’s the best investment manager in the past decade since MSFT is now a giant technology conglomerate. Better than Berkshire.

Nadella is the scottie pippen of tech ceos.
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