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Re: 1Password to Add Telemetry

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Post by cywick »

gaws wrote: post #143
SomeHacker44 wrote: post #137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

i have literally over 5,000 passwords going back almost 30 years in a dozen vaults in 1P. How easy was it to migrate to Bitwarden? Any issues with Windows, Android, Linux, i(Pad)OS with the move? thanks!

I can't speak for multiple vaults, but it was extremely easy for me to import my single vault: 1. Export 1P passwords to a 1pux file 2. Import file into Bitwarden 3. Done.

    2b. If you have attached documents in 1Password, you need to manually add those to Bitwaren.
This process is pretty straight-forward, though. To get a clean list of all items with file attachments in 1Password, I found it very useful to create a Smart Folder with the rule "Number of attachments is greater than: 0".

[1]: https://bitwarden.com/help/import-faqs/#q-how-do-i-import-fi...

Re: 1Password to Add Telemetry

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Post by muescha »

philistine wrote: post #254
raverbashing wrote: post #115

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> But there are millions of people using 1Password now, often in cool and innovative It's a password manager, what's "cool" about it? 1Pwd always rubbed me the wrong way in the way they "take themselves too seriously" and overrate their importance It's a password manager. They wouldn't even sync to cloud at first iirc, no? The more boring the better

They're headed the way of Dropbox. As Steve Jobs famously said to Dropbox when trying to purchase them: You don't have a product, you have a feature. For Dropbox it took way longer to get to that point than anyone expected, but Microsoft, Apple, and Google have all copied the Dropbox feature. 1Password is headed in the same direction and Apple is leading the pack in making it redundant. If the password section of Set…

I am eagerly anticipating the release of the Apple Passwords App. However, initially limiting it to Apple devices alone would not be practical for most users who require password sharing capabilities.

This is similar to the case of iMessage vs WhatsApp, where the lack of a Windows/Android App for iMessage renders it unused by my friends and unpopular in regions where Android phones are prevalent.

Re: 1Password to Add Telemetry

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Post by closewith »

bwoodruff wrote: post #303
closewith wrote: post #24

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I'd accept making it opt-in, but opt-out is ridiculous. I can't imagine how they're going to get this past EU regulators. I love (although loved more in the past) 1Password and have deployed it in two separate companies. Between this and recent UI updates (well, over the last couple of years), maybe it's time to look at alternatives.

I wrote more about the consent aspect here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35706897 tl;dr If we roll this out to customers, we'll be asking for consent, and won't be collecting telemetry data unless we have it. -Ben, 1Password

That's much more reasonable than the wording on the linked page. Thanks for your response.

Re: 1Password to Add Telemetry

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Post by gaws »

stefandesu wrote: post #320
gaws wrote: post #143

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can't speak for multiple vaults, but it was extremely easy for me to import my single vault: 1. Export 1P passwords to a 1pux file 2. Import file into Bitwarden 3. Done.

How did you deal with unsupported data types? As far as I remember, Bitwarden is extremely limited when it comes to that.

What are examples of unsupported data types?

Re: 1Password to Add Telemetry

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Post by stefandesu »

gaws wrote: post #325
stefandesu wrote: post #320

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How did you deal with unsupported data types? As far as I remember, Bitwarden is extremely limited when it comes to that.

What are examples of unsupported data types?

As far as I can see, Bitwarden only supports Logins, Cards, Identities, and Secure Notes. 1Password has separate item types like:

- Documents - Databases - Email Accounts - Servers - Software Licenses - SSH Keys

I have several entries in all of these types. Of course, you can map them to one of Bitwarden's types (usually as a Login, I would guess), but as far as I remember, it would have taken quite a bit of manual cleanup to get this to work right. I wonder why Bitwarden doesn't have additional types, even if just as a way to have some better organization of your items.

I will definitely try Bitwarden again in the near future. I recently reverted to 1Password 7 which works so much better than 8, but as EOL for 1Password 7 is imminent and my subscription renews in the summer, I think it's time to try the alternatives again.

Re: 1Password to Add Telemetry

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Post by smcleod »

torstenvl wrote: post #141

Users: We want standalone non-subscription licenses! 1Password: I really wish we knew what users wanted. Users: Please don't move to Electron, I don't want Chrome bugs in my password manager. 1Password: I'm just baffled. We never hear from users. Users: Please, for the love of God, give us control over our vaults. Don't go cloud-only, we're begging you! 1Password: Better turn on telemetry. It's the only way to solve…

Don't forget:

1Password: We /have/ to move to Electron because we don't have any money.

Also 1Password: oh hey by the way we got $920,000,000 from VC...

Re: 1Password to Add Telemetry

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Post by smcleod »

pindab0ter wrote: post #212
makk wrote: post #169

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Users: The UI/UX of 1Password 7 is pretty good. We're happy. 1Password: Yeah, but we're bored. So, we'll release an abomination as 1Password 8 and then spend years trying to figure out why people hate it.

How and is 1Password 8 an abomination?

Oh god... it's so bad! 1Password 8 feels like using Norton antivirus - it's bloated, doesn't feel native, has the weirdest bugs that never occurred in earlier major versions such this weeks new one - editing a password updates a different stored password. It's very.... javascripty....

Re: 1Password to Add Telemetry

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Post by smcleod »

V__ wrote: post #229
microtonal wrote: post #220

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Currently literally consuming 1.4GiB memory on my machine... for a password manager?

This doesn't match with my personal experience. On Windows10 1Password is using locked about 5MB Ram, unlocked 30MB when idle. It shoots up to 150MB when actively being used, but as soon as I close the window, it's back to normal. Firefox extension takes about 1MB of Ram.

I suspect your windows process viewer is only showing you the thread that's running the foreground window or something like that, it's chonky as.

Re: 1Password to Add Telemetry

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Post by gaws »

stefandesu wrote: post #326
gaws wrote: post #325

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What are examples of unsupported data types?

As far as I can see, Bitwarden only supports Logins, Cards, Identities, and Secure Notes. 1Password has separate item types like: - Documents - Databases - Email Accounts - Servers - Software Licenses - SSH Keys I have several entries in all of these types. Of course, you can map them to one of Bitwarden's types (usually as a Login, I would guess), but as far as I remember, it would have taken quite a bit of manual c…

> Software Licenses

> Documents

Bitwarden's Secure Notes features works: Licenses as text can be saved to a note, while a document or other file can be attached.

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