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Re: Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more

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Post by nrp »

Haegin wrote: post #318
mtlmtlmtlmtl wrote: post #313

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Split ortholinear keyboard with a clit mouse. If someone makes this to where I can just plug and play and program the keyboard firmware directly I'm switching at the next opportune moment(I'm not a hardware guy, I stop at the lowest levels of programming and leave the soldering to steadier hands...) Though my Thinkpad can still handle another 5 years of wanton abuse I'm sure, so I have all the time in the world. Man…

I'd love someone to do a split ortholinear keyboard on a laptop. That'd probably push it to instant buy for me almost regardless of the rest of the specs etc.

Split ortholinear is possible. We didn't show this, but it is technically possible to build an Input Module for the Framework Laptop 16 that is full width, giving a lot of horizontal real estate for a split layout.

Re: Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more

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Post by nrp »

brucethemoose2 wrote: post #308
nrp wrote: post #229

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We would absolutely love to see a Tenstorrent Expansion Bay Module.

You should reach out! Their e75 is 75W and could probably be trimmed further down: https://tenstorrent.com/grayskull/ Not only would they get exposure, but they would love to see Framework-owning devs experimenting on Grayskull like its an RTX 3060. Of course it would probably be linux only, but still...

Awesome! The e75 looks like it should be feasible. I've just reached out.

Re: Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more

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Post by nrp »

CarVac wrote: post #286
nrp wrote: post #216

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Absolutely! We’ve been chatting with Jack Humbert, and he’s actually been prototyping an ortholinear keyboard module for the Framework Laptop 16. There are likely some photos of it in press articles about the event today.

Is there a chance you could have individual scissor switch key modules made for DIY ergonomic layouts on a custom PCB? The height limitations of the 16" laptop are too low for low-profile discrete mechanical switches.

That is a really interesting idea and something we'll explore.

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Post by no_pomegranates »

kevin_thibedeau wrote: post #69
KeepingItToasty wrote: post #18

Quick summary for those couldn't watch the livestream/load the website. - New Framework laptops are available using Intel 13th Gen and AMD 7040 series. - New 61Wh battery, new matte display option & a Cooler Master mainboard case for $39. - New 16 inch Framework laptop. Allows you to have a number pad or not, up to you and customizable. If I understood the livestream correctly, there are upgradable dedicated GPUs tha…

It would be nice if we could get non-multiplexed edit keys in the unused space. That is the biggest failing of modern laptops. Massive horizontal real estate and they're packing keys in like it's 1995.

Can you give an example of what keys you mean by this?

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Post by nrp »

cge wrote: post #265
nrp wrote: post #50

I’m happy to answer questions that everyone has about what we announced! It may be a little while until I’m able to jump back on though.

Looking at your mechanical design for the large input module, though I can't compare the height at the moment, it appears to be almost the same size as the keyboard on the Framework 13. While it would obviously require a new input cover design, would it be possible to design an assembly that would allow a single large input module to be used as the keyboard on a Framework 13? Or would there be height problems?

The key structure actually is the same as the Framework Laptop 13, including the same key travel. The overall module is different though to handle the interface differences, in a way that makes it not possible to retrofit into a Framework Laptop 13 unfortunately (we thought about this, but couldn't make it work well).

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Post by heavyset_go »

riedel wrote: post #114
vanilla_nut wrote: post #92

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The customization goes further than just yes/no to the number pad. Looks like a whole "Input Module system" that could open up opportunities for different keyboard designs (DVORAK, various locales, maybe different switches?). I love this idea, excited to see what folks do with it. Makes me think of Apple's Touchbar nonsense -- why force a number pad, or a second touchscreen on folks who don't want one? Such a good it…

Trackpoint with physical mouse buttons... Just let me keep dreaming.

I'd kill for a trackpoint keyboard.

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Post by commandersaki »

kevin_thibedeau wrote: post #132
mixmastamyk wrote: post #97

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Previous framework was 3:2, not 16:9 so there isn't a ridiculous amount of width. But yes, a vertical column of dedicated keys is a decent compromise that doesn't shift the keyboard over much. I had that on an older luggable.

You don't have to shift the keyboard over at all. That can stay centered and there's room for a 2x3 block of edit keys plus an inverted-T with full height up and down arrows. All it takes is willingness to be a leader instead of a follower copying one company's misguided minimalism-at-all-costs.

I'd prefer inverted-T with half height keys and use fn as a modifier for pgup/pgdn/home/end. Don't really need insert or delete though, but there's already a key for that.

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Post by AprilArcus »

nrp wrote: post #216
tzarc wrote: post #118

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As one of the QMK Firmware maintainers, it's great to see you're going ahead with the customisable side of things even on the input side. Might I suggest engaging with QMK early so that we can avoid the usual manufacturer "hey can you merge this, we've shipped already and forgot to raise the PR until now"?

Absolutely! We’ve been chatting with Jack Humbert, and he’s actually been prototyping an ortholinear keyboard module for the Framework Laptop 16. There are likely some photos of it in press articles about the event today.

Joining the chorus clamoring for this <3
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