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Apple’s 2½ year old iPhone 12 is 6% faster than the new Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra

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Post by rodgerd »

yjftsjthsd-h wrote: post #97
favaq wrote: post #88

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Why would I want any of that? We are talking phones here, not computers.

You would want a USB-C connector so you can drive every device you own with one cable. You would want Gecko if you like arbitrary extensions - sure, iOS lets you have (somewhat weaker) adblock, but there's a whole world of useful extensions beyond that. And you'd want to run arbitrary code on a machine you own because phones are computers, and some of us like to be able to use less-hobbled software on them.

> You would want a USB-C connector so you can drive every device you own with one cable.

My car has a lightning dock. Guess I should throw the car away. That's the easy thing, right?

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Post by [deleted] »

t8sr wrote: post #162

Everyone in this thread is arguing about operating systems and their mobile OS preference... why? The interesting point here, which is corroborated by different sources than just TFA, is that Apple's silicon is 1-2 generations ahead of everyone else. Whether you like iPhone or Android, I think we should all agree that's a bad situation for the world to be in. Apple's advantage in mobile CPUs is coming at a time when…

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Post by WWLink »

lotsofpulp wrote: post #247
WWLink wrote: post #153

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I have an XS and a Galaxy Fold 4. The XS is a LOT slower at some things. But that might reflect more on the app developers than the phone.

It is also me not doing anything other than messaging, safari browsing, reading, watching, and taking pictures/video. I am sure I would notice something if I were to play games or do something graphical.

It's the small 3rd party apps. Stuff like mcdonalds, taco bell, weatherbug, uber eats, etc. The web browser is kinda faster too, but I use firefox on both devices so it's not really a fair comparison on either end. The XS just shows its age in some stuff - I think due to the lack of ram. It'll just randomly hang for a second while it catches up lol. Rare, but it does happen.

The speed thing is balanced out by UI tweaks and things like the Apple Watch that I still use. Unfortunately it was a dumb silly situation where I bought a novelty phone that I actually REALLY enjoy using... and then I don't wanna get rid of my iphone haha.

Edit: Another unfair comparison - the Google Nest app is ludicrously slow on my iPhone.

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gbil wrote: post #15

I like my slower android in which I can run my browser engine of choice, install any program I want in an easy way without time limitations and customize it in general as I want. Did I mention that it has a USB-C connector too? Disclaimer: I have an old iphone, used iphone 11 for weeks then went back to Android and I daily drive a M1 Pro Macbook

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Post by smokelegend »

goosedragons wrote: post #198
sidlls wrote: post #85

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For people with the means to afford it, iOS devices are superior in most ways: from performance to utility to lifetime. They lack features a rounding-error fraction of users care about, like side-loading for example.

Performance? Maybe. Lifetime? Maybe. Utility? No. The extra restrictions Apple packs on cuts utility. No emulators, no NFC pairing, no auto-sorting your app pages alphabetically, worse notifications, no grabbing that file off a USB C drive, etc. Certainly never got some of the weird but useful things Android phones have had like being a universal remote. Android phones can do everything iPhones can plus more. You can…

One could make the argument that Apple has to have something that Android doesn't... a faster cpu?

This doesn't mean that Android needs to have the fastest cpu, because they can do more with the resources they have better then Apple does.

Wireless charging android phone to android phone, done. Wireless charging your headphone case from your Android phone, done.

Want to plug in a hard drive, ssd, ide, cd-rom, 3.5inchers, printer, keyboard, mouse, monitor, done, done, done, it all gets done on android.

You see I care more about functionality/utility them cpu speed.

And as others have pointed out battery life is still the most critical priority....because who cares how fast your frame rates are if you can only play for 15min before running the battery dead...

Next 5yrs the battery technology for these handheld devices will be insane. Imagine not charging your phone for a week....

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Post by hinkley »

pkulak wrote: post #218
t8sr wrote: post #162

Everyone in this thread is arguing about operating systems and their mobile OS preference... why? The interesting point here, which is corroborated by different sources than just TFA, is that Apple's silicon is 1-2 generations ahead of everyone else. Whether you like iPhone or Android, I think we should all agree that's a bad situation for the world to be in. Apple's advantage in mobile CPUs is coming at a time when…

Does Apple really have some secret sauce, or are they just consistently first in line for TSMC's latest process? Not saying that's better or worse, but it's a very different problem.

Customers with expensive tastes help you roll out new product lines. Cheap customers may end up costing you money, or at the very least represent a negative opportunity cost. You have to work out for yourself whether the gravitas of having a full schedule lets you get more paying customers in the door.

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Post by nomel »

762236 wrote: post #265
konart wrote: post #25

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> in which I can run my browser engine of choice Soon on iOS too, to be fair. USB-C to follow most likely.

Hopefully with USB-3 speeds. Last I understood, the iPhone still transfers data at USB-2 speeds. This is crazy when you want to transfer large videos, or backup.

With a Wifi 6, and airdrop, does this really matter anymore?

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Post by nomel »

bombcar wrote: post #109
jeroenhd wrote: post #96

This doesn't really showcase how much Apple's chips are as much as how far Qualcom has fallen behind. On the other hand, the results also show how much work Apple will need to put into their GPUs, as the clearly inferior chip is still beating the iPhone 14 hands down in terms of GPU horsepower. The relevant review, though, is performance per watt. This video ( https://youtu.be/s0ukXDnWlTY ) from a few months ago expl…

Performance per watt only matters until you hit 1+ day battery life in regular usage. Beyond that, who cares? It also wouldn't matter if the thing could recharge super fast. The M1/M2 laptops have done this, I noticed that people who used to bring chargers with them at conferences/meetings don't even bother anymore, or don't bring it out of the bag.

> The M1/M2 laptops have done this, I noticed that people who used to bring chargers with them at conferences/meetings don't even bother anymore, or don't bring it out of the bag.

I haven't brought my charger to work since I received my M1. My bag just contains snacks. Not having to worry about charging is really a very different experience.

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Post by rodgerd »

barbazoo wrote: post #46

Why anyone would get a Samsung is beyond me. The amount of bloatware they install is insane and a lot of that you can't even uninstall. Plus it takes so long to get OS updates. And then there is Bixby or what that piece of shit is called.

> Why anyone would get a Samsung is beyond me.

The fact that Samsung is the de facto standard manufacturer in the Android world is very depressing.

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