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Re: Show HN: I “wrote” a kid's book with ChatGPT and Midjourney

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I think it’s great. We should then be able to develop systems which separate the wheat from the chaff. And that is progress.

You mean advertising?

I meant systems that can differentiate between AI generated content and organic content.

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A fun experiment but LLM generated stories will never escape the uncanny valley, because they're not novel, they're remixes. I know the critique of that position is "but humans just remix the things they know from the world" but that is the same misunderstanding that those who thought truck driving jobs would be automated by 2018 made about that profession. i.e. The less you know about a field, the more likely you ar…

>A fun experiment but LLM generated stories will never escape the uncanny valley, because they're not novel, they're remixes. I don't know how we get this myth to stop perpetuating but it does not ring true to me at all. LLM's has proven to have "novelty" many times now.

I'd love to read a "novel" AI story; sounds very interesting. Can you link an example or two?

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That's how I see it. IT could still involve a lot of novel thought and work to get the AI to generate text you want. You nudge it in whatever direction you want it to go.

What actual problem about writing would this solve? This is like coming up with a plot idea and having some hired writer write it. This already existed before computers. So you're essentially using GPT as a ghostwriter, only (unlike human ghostwriters) it has no way to come with something innovative, it just regurgitates whatever it's already in its data in some way or another. "But," I can guess you'll object, "huma…

Do we need another song about love? Do we need another library for formatting text? Do we need another bedtime story?

No, we probably don’t. Won’t and shouldn’t stop people from making more :)

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A fun experiment but LLM generated stories will never escape the uncanny valley, because they're not novel, they're remixes. I know the critique of that position is "but humans just remix the things they know from the world" but that is the same misunderstanding that those who thought truck driving jobs would be automated by 2018 made about that profession. i.e. The less you know about a field, the more likely you ar…

> A fun experiment but LLM generated stories will never escape the uncanny valley, because they're not novel, they're remixes. I know the critique of that position is "but humans just remix the things they know from the world" but that is the same misunderstanding that those who thought truck driving jobs would be automated by 2018 made about that profession. i.e. The less you know about a field, the more likely you…

This piece did not seem to be written by a human. The writing style would arguably escape notice, though it was an even a little too twee for a children's book. But the plot was so far out there that it's hard to argue that it seems natural. I think even most children, after having experience with children's books, would find something odd about the sequence of events.

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But it is not like that ... at all. Analogies run the risk of being completely wrong. A frozen food is made of real food, the process all starts from scratch with "natural" ingredients (well ingredients). The frozen food vs fresh cooked food is more like a film vs live acting. Or listening on tape vs a live concert. Even this analogy is lacking, a frozen food is made fresh at some point, it is about mass production n…

Um, I'm pretty sure your analogy fell off the truck and got ran over at some point... Trying to take the 'freshness' of food and compare it to storytelling is just an abject failure here as the vaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaast majority of storytelling has no freshness at all, it's rehashing of the same basic plot elements, hell, was it the Greeks that stated this a few thousand years ago?

you are conflating storytelling with the plot ... see how easy is to criticise analogies ...

there is/was plenty of fresh storytelling in every age

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All advances in creative tooling are automating creativity. What are you on about? Look at photoshop color selector automates mixing paint, digital filters for audio automate analog mixers. This attitude towards AI creative tools is gatekeeping.

It’s not gatekeeping to value the outcomes of work created this way less than you would from the mind of a human. Saying that I agree with you in that I see this technology as a tool that can be used by humans to make amazing things. No one really has yet as the outputs have just been blunted, sloppy things. But if I’m an artist I see these tools as the latest tool to help make things.

> It’s not gatekeeping to value the outcomes of work created this way less than you would from the mind of a human.

There is a difference between saying something is less than and calling it gross. Also, imho, value of art is usually the art not the process. Sometimes it is the process, like someone showing off a new method but that is of interest to very, very few people. Just like academic papers' methodology section. Even within the larger community, it's useful to only a few people. (Apart from just checking someone's work)

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> A fun experiment but LLM generated stories will never escape the uncanny valley, because they're not novel, they're remixes. I know the critique of that position is "but humans just remix the things they know from the world" but that is the same misunderstanding that those who thought truck driving jobs would be automated by 2018 made about that profession. i.e. The less you know about a field, the more likely you…

What are “books for cities?”

Books like "Goodnight Chicago" and similar
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