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There warehouses are significantly worse than average in terms of injuries per hour. They also frequently sell fraudulent items directly harming consumers. I can’t think of a metric where they aren’t worse than the average retailer.

Unless you have metrics for the average retailer, that's probably not true. Local corner shops vary widely, but are not the least bit shy about hiring undocumented workers, stealing wages, skimping on safety and avoiding taxes. They just do it at such a small scale, it doesn't make the news.

The statistics I gave where in comparison to the average. They also have higher rates of injury and pay less in taxes.

Amazon has had wage theft issues, but I don’t know how they stack up on undocumented workers or the average retailer which includes Costco etc not just tiny corner stores.

Wage theft: https://www.theverge.com/2021/2/2/22262294/amazon-flex-wage-... more wage theft: https://www.wweek.com/news/2022/11/15/murmurs-amazon-settles... you can find a bunch of these going back years but this is what I was initially thinking of: https://www.fastcompany.com/3020175/employees-sue-amazon-ove...

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I don't think the sins of Amazon are any worse than most other major U.S. retailers.

There warehouses are significantly worse than average in terms of injuries per hour. They also frequently sell fraudulent items directly harming consumers. I can’t think of a metric where they aren’t worse than the average retailer.

Injuries per item picked or per capita might be a better metric. It's pretty easy to say the injuries are higher if you have more employees and higher volume than the competitors. Same thing with fraudulent items on Walmart.com.

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I would rather donate $10 to my local charity monthly than have one more company track my entire browsing history.

Good point. The main thing I was looking for was something to recommend me alternatives to Amazon when looking at a product.

Makes sense! The only way I personally found to deal with this is check different websites manually. It's either that or some extension that can automate this process in return for all my data.

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There warehouses are significantly worse than average in terms of injuries per hour. They also frequently sell fraudulent items directly harming consumers. I can’t think of a metric where they aren’t worse than the average retailer.

They pay a lot more than the average retailer, which is why they feel they can work their employees so hard. I think they also tend to see less employee on employee violence.

"I think they also tend to see less employee on employee violence."

Increased shared hatred of the employer leads to increased employee cohesion?

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Gun ownership is split between party lines but not as much as people think. There is still a good chunk of Democrats that own guns (including myself). https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2017/06/22/the-dem...

Gun ownership isn't the same thing as being anti-gun control. The majority of people, many of them gun owners and haling from both "parties", would like to see some basic restrictions on how quick and easy it is to buy a gun.

I would support good training requirements for gun control.

You can get long guns in Europe, just that there isn't a gun culture and proper training is required. That's how it should be. I staunchly and vehemently oppose California and New York state zeitgeist on "gun control". I would not support California-style restrictions on arms that cuts citizens with a thousand paper cuts and infringes upon fundamental rights. Absolutely stupid laws that are designed for appeasing out-of-touch voter base than actually preventing crime.

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They also never supported smile donations from the mobile app for no good reason, so it was always pretty clear to me that it was nothing more than a PR stunt/tax write off.

This is not correct in the US. Don't know what country you're in.

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It's weird that corporations have philanthropic arms, isn't it?

Never struck me as weird. Trying to think of why you find it to be so. Is it because it theoretically distracts them from pursuing their profit motive with a "total war" mentality? I don't believe that's actually true (either that they have that mentality or that charity is a net loss for them).
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